Re: [bess] Questions about the EVPN YANG data model draft

Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> Tue, 23 October 2018 05:35 UTC

Return-Path: <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
X-Original-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CAF130DF0 for <bess@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.699
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" header.d=eci365.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hQD30FdWyXdp for <bess@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail1.bemta25.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta25.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C3AD127333 for <bess@ietf.org>; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [46.226.52.101] (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits)) by server-3.bemta.az-a.eu-west-1.aws.symcld.net id C4/92-12385-C23BECB5; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:35:40 +0000
X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA1VTf0xTVxjtfT/6HoRuzyLjk+ESS8wS8dV2Y6O 6GTEmS5PNRE3UzR/Bh322zcqj6XsEXGLSGMK0xsgYanGLFay/Kgkrmk1QY6QxGwhFuzECiNsE xUEDbIpijMb3etG5f76c+51zz/nuzb0safyeyWHFSkX0SYLHpE+nChYUbeXzz8U3W37ZXWA7/ XM9aWuLnkW2W8cjjO36TBNjG5p5preFT7RRttHu00QRY+/uf07Z655GaXs4/ISwJ+636+3xqR Bj79vdy9iHBhLEGmYT7ZZKyiq30a7+zn9I78iuyvj4AdqPYt4ASmcprpGEusFWUlsYuVoC9ty 7pA8gVl0MIwg4AiiN1XPLoeXskF7Dc7kIAcdq5mmY5PIgFuphNJzJfQRjT2pJrPkY9jYfndUv g+EuP61ZUtxCCLYWaW0DJ0Di92BKosYimGx+W8NpapS/pofSMOLegsedTQSOyoaBkVAKA8dB+ FIPiXEW/D38nMb6EvjjbgPSooBbAM37XFgyHxKhfUg7IXBXGfD3T8/68DB18OCsz2oYvThN4r 15cP7+Vqz/FcHJO+dp3F8M34SKsdwLE5MxAmt6ECRv1yFMvAOR/X9RmOglIRSoYjCRC/4Lh/S YiOnh6Yk4VYP4I68dDmMJ+g43MEdSlzQHOupHKNy3wGQ8RGKcDycbxmfxEog+7Eav948hJoIK S3xup0spFdwe3mqx8Fbre7x16Qd84Ydm4SteMIvlfIUoK7zVLFTIZnln6XaPwyyJSgtS36LDG /vsArp9ytmO5rGEKcvwbU18s/GNkjLHTpcgu4p95R5Rbke5LGsCw59RlZvjE51i5Q63R33QL2 lgM0xzDWtbVNoge4VS2e3EVCf6lI0E9wRJ9k6qTqTqj1171Vp1t0+twbZ79aSRksokMSfbwGo WnGbhKpdeBbz8NAk0PyfTgHQ6nTHDK/pK3cr/+TGUzSJTpqFJmzPDLSmv5hhTRyTUEfve7dJG VIT/qBw/2jT6yZv0mdzk4ajjwZerkj7Lrs+vdjduuBkXF3c4q29U08tXTiQbzQMFv80oDqpqa dUzpztZe/lh3qMK7/qMdT8Fjg/u/2Lhd2lXptN1t/4NXKOuWTuEwu3lWddXhOumBnOP5ld39L LT77du2WLcKClfP9ghrNFNjv8QGyFX3ywqPmSiZJdgXUT6ZOEFZjg3QS8EAAA=
X-Env-Sender: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-265.messagelabs.com!1540272936!1049311!1
X-Originating-IP: [52.33.64.93]
X-SYMC-ESS-Client-Auth: mailfrom-relay-check=pass
X-StarScan-Received:
X-StarScan-Version: 9.14.24; banners=ecitele.com,-,-
X-VirusChecked: Checked
Received: (qmail 21102 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2018 05:35:39 -0000
Received: from us-west-2b.mta.dlp.protect.symantec.com (HELO EUR03-AM5-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (52.33.64.93) by server-9.tower-265.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA256 encrypted SMTP; 23 Oct 2018 05:35:39 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ECI365.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-ecitele-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=+hdt0smwkGl64W29gm4sr3OBGc0ipl25UtToEw1+hgk=; b=UkNmeE7loJ5lhY8KE5emDn9TtOG4EP0nfELhUzJMSaOtiMkp4EXOF+FFzKJe5o5w6O11zmBAMET/ejFpNa6JCARPyRAfJsD8+lSoEZ3kLYnj7H/+96h/PMPZM/YSgG9C/rcVtNW5zbF3mC8xJOMtjSexNZYjRWYKrmKMH40xs70=
Received: from AM4PR0301MB1905.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.168.2.155) by AM4PR0301MB2049.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.168.3.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1250.30; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:35:34 +0000
Received: from AM4PR0301MB1905.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::bc4d:cff4:9bda:3250]) by AM4PR0301MB1905.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::bc4d:cff4:9bda:3250%6]) with mapi id 15.20.1250.028; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:35:33 +0000
From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
To: "hshah@ciena.com" <hshah@ciena.com>, "jorge.rabadan@nokia.com" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>, "ing-wher_chen@jabil.com" <ing-wher_chen@jabil.com>, "ihussain@infinera.com" <ihussain@infinera.com>, "kishoret@juniper.net" <kishoret@juniper.net>, "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" <pbrisset@cisco.com>
CC: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Questions about the EVPN YANG data model draft
Thread-Index: AdRpKBIaA0WQYnKPTxyQ1QKEypCDwwBPf1oAAAsKBCo=
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:35:33 +0000
Message-ID: <AM4PR0301MB1905EEB3843F54F4A4D985F69DF50@AM4PR0301MB1905.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB5PR0301MB19093856CE4495B879CAFD299DFB0@DB5PR0301MB1909.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>, <646F9E53-2208-4809-B350-6E9D043A69CF@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <646F9E53-2208-4809-B350-6E9D043A69CF@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [40.67.248.134]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; AM4PR0301MB2049; 6:sHr09jATjdTpUGFYn8w4YytFZQJvo2hTwzRWZQIae3pmhJ5shRzyJwFdREDpdLIS14eu91GjFScVXLe3kH3hjUAtXxzuHwpk3tIbInJF6EobrTUxv/DqCEGO29QNzfyZOuMpchnDjmpAmGq3OySQJUDXZ5nZTdVEmRCqMNjAaKCiVgxTqxBJEvi7uiRYw7rTs3IRPe6x/EBlc3ILLs4U/Eu9oChN0aIkjdB9HFI+rOD+UpOo+/jcc/PGUlbeYQ7iklQ82qQ5dUtDwfCydGp2gcKl+n8ZnZNg1jvxzmFPfM02hAZuio7P2wqxrqnRMwRd/4dbncXW4vmwW4eKxJg9EU6I+mHXhz4Jc2WANE/2d/NDD58wTbpCym27eocs1p2JcEJyAo14qpTtVPb7drESDnIv3hlkCR1bfx6Yc1fgkzAS3kXyXLV0a3V8/LDm3W5ePvYFyyNvFGYD0oks0oyqHg==; 5:Ba8YglUt1hZJPmOjxjwNE3z1AoA6pDyUazQNa3+5l8obyLGNGjB/0kgxJpdkFjm1okUyvJ7RYxGGQJGLRjywKjdfPiR6qrknBilbK7nNKjz0nYmmcJ4erGu+8d5hlL0kGS2mONwRegiemvl/lPerXLibWz9BJZOUGEjFywFn+ws=; 7:1GdNbI5150/ccat8fdG5gl8VFkSnJOc6A/cFl5LQoZrp6RBnIsj97rbdjUIjwEgC6Dd8bRvzQ4ROzhOEr/WK92EYBLy3sdsDb1vAJraBbVB0JYwjzptn91AlHhCNK7JLSvugfh+/7J311Oi9XcrLE6DEiLJrp+/juouG4sRzSGFF8q4dQfRth8xdoQErDsoBtw7iwiWT0tqLmzsHAztpY7YBEMlZeUgzOiG/Auk/bo55Fa/BE90F+QyH0AEbEqri
x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SOS;
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 8ee8eaf5-017e-4e13-df87-08d638a95a8f
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652040)(8989299)(5600074)(711020)(4618075)(4534185)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990200)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:AM4PR0301MB2049;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: AM4PR0301MB2049:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <AM4PR0301MB2049E0992703BBA5C6D5CA669DF50@AM4PR0301MB2049.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>
x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(95692535739014)(60276143690247)(82608151540597)(109105607167333)(195916259791689)(21534305686606)(138986009662008)(279101305709854)(99650590838007)(83196854966205);
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(8211001083)(6040522)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(10201501046)(93006095)(93001095)(3002001)(3231355)(944501410)(52105095)(6055026)(148016)(149066)(150057)(6041310)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123558120)(20161123564045)(20161123560045)(20161123562045)(201708071742011)(7699051)(76991095); SRVR:AM4PR0301MB2049; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:AM4PR0301MB2049;
x-forefront-prvs: 0834BAF534
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(396003)(366004)(346002)(376002)(39860400002)(136003)(199004)(189003)(51874003)(252514010)(51444003)(72206003)(14444005)(8676002)(6246003)(33656002)(186003)(6506007)(86362001)(53546011)(99286004)(81166006)(606006)(81156014)(6436002)(316002)(55016002)(110136005)(7736002)(5660300001)(9686003)(6306002)(8936002)(14454004)(74316002)(53936002)(66066001)(68736007)(2906002)(478600001)(5250100002)(54896002)(105586002)(2900100001)(1941001)(236005)(2501003)(229853002)(7696005)(76176011)(4326008)(25786009)(476003)(6116002)(3846002)(486006)(102836004)(11346002)(256004)(446003)(71190400001)(97736004)(217873002)(106356001)(26005)(2201001)(71200400001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:AM4PR0301MB2049; H:AM4PR0301MB1905.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ecitele.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: nsdmYjbpOK4g0FImZKvzq269YScSZk7VFmObU9otiAxLpMOQsyWYsNvuwKF2ZR6z7MBnEByT3l2MW57vHhJE3inTZQ2TWMo7NX2JTfyf4EB1r40oFUJSZJo220GowHQT1DroVpNuOo6B5/a8I+j+mppVdWD6Ff34ChCt8NYIFc/XWf4Au0HHEkwnJdkJfkIs05EI2wBduvpRX002v2NZrw8DyQ5514ofCvbrRbh/j7MEe3Q5mnUvsX5j5jnxS2sb0sGXDxheLfHP18KsM/qPvxRrBbTN5CMZvS09bLSQ45wj+Hc84zPtVJKlIn7B5rAvPI0aTl9gYQKVdSCIzblvKuwdq1jbiPFDajGv/DI7vBY=
spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99
spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_AM4PR0301MB1905EEB3843F54F4A4D985F69DF50AM4PR0301MB1905_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 8ee8eaf5-017e-4e13-df87-08d638a95a8f
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 23 Oct 2018 05:35:33.8569 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM4PR0301MB2049
X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/Q7soT8bfwOyeDBKzXlgN53WkfhQ>
Subject: Re: [bess] Questions about the EVPN YANG data model draft
X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list <bess.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/bess>, <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/bess/>
List-Post: <mailto:bess@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess>, <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 05:35:47 -0000

Patrice,
Lots of thanks for a prompt response.

I have just looked up the diff between -05 and -06 versions of the draft.

It seems that the only change is refresh of references as some of the drafts to which the -05 version referred have been publishesd as RFCs.

So I think that my questions equally apply to the -06 version.

Regards,
Sasha

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

________________________________
From: Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) <pbrisset@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:19:28 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein; hshah@ciena.com; jorge.rabadan@nokia.com; Ing-Wher_Chen@jabil.com; ihussain@infinera.com; kishoret@juniper.net
Cc: bess@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Questions about the EVPN YANG data model draft

Hi Alex,

I just refresh the draft. Unfortunately, I just notice your email. I will make sure it is properly handle.

Regards,

Patrice Brissette, Principal Engineer
Cisco Systems
Help us track your SP SR/EVPN Customer Opportunity/Status by filling these forms: Segment Routing<https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/185833ace35b4894b324dfb8afbd2060> / EVPN<https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/136bd5c3a22641bf92316523e79d6f22>



From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 7:00 AM
To: Patrice Brissette <pbrisset@cisco.com>, "hshah@ciena.com" <hshah@ciena.com>, "jorge.rabadan@nokia.com" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>, "Ing-Wher_Chen@jabil.com" <Ing-Wher_Chen@jabil.com>, "ihussain@infinera.com" <ihussain@infinera.com>, "kishoret@juniper.net" <kishoret@juniper.net>
Cc: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Questions about the EVPN YANG data model draft

Dear Editors of the EVPN YANG data model draft<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-05>,
I have several questions regarding the draft, and would highly appreciated your responses.


1.       The -05 version of the draft has expired almost two months ago. Do you plan to refresh it any time soon?

2.       The draft consistently uses type uint32 for the Ethernet segment identifier (ESI), while RFC 7432 explicitly defines it as a 10-octet integer. Is this just a typo, or did I miss something substantial here?

3.       The draft states that it covers Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, but I could not find any traces of such coverage. Did I miss something, or is just a forward declaration for the future version of the draft?

4.       RFC 7432 states that “When a customer site is connected to one or more PEs via a set of Ethernet links, then this set of Ethernet links constitutes an Ethernet segment". The Virtual Ethernet Segment draft<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-00> expands this definition and, so that virtual Ethernet Segments can be comprised of:

·         Ethernet Virtual Circuits aggregated on an ENNI physical ports

·         Ethernet PWs or even MPLS LSPs.
Can you please clarify the following:

a.       How does the proposed YANG data model differentiate between physical and virtual Ethernet Segments?

b.       Does this data model cover the scenario where the virtual Ethernet segments are represented by EVCs?

5.       RFC 7432 includes recommendations for usage (or non-usage) of the Control Word in the EVPN encapsulation, and RFC 8214 (which is claimed to be covered by this draft) provides a control plane mechanism for exchanging the CW usage information. Can you please clarify whether the draft cover usage of the CW in the EVPN encapsulations?
Your feedback will be highly appreciated.

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha

Office: +972-39266302
Cell:      +972-549266302
Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com


___________________________________________________________________________

This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains information which is
CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have received this
transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then delete the original
and all copies thereof.
___________________________________________________________________________


___________________________________________________________________________

This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains information which is 
CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have received this 
transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then delete the original 
and all copies thereof.
___________________________________________________________________________