Re: [bess] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Stephane Litkowski (slitkows)" <slitkows@cisco.com>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [bess] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Yep sorry.
I would like to keep the cap code value that has been allocated.

What about:
This document does not define any new code point compared to <xref target="RFC5549"/>
RFC5549 added "Extended Next Hop Encoding" to the Capability Codes registry, which was created by [RFC5492].  IANA is requested to update the definition of that entry to refer instead to this document.
The value allocated for this Capability Code is 5.



From: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Hi,

I saw the change.  However the text of that section still says "new" twice.  Since the registration was made by RFC 5549, it isn't appropriate to call it "new".

Any comments on the text I proposed in my DISCUSS?  It's more typical of "bis" style work, in my experience.

-MSK

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 1:49 AM <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Murray,

I have uploaded a new revision that clarifies the IANA section.

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Subject: Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-rfc5549revision-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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An easy one, but necessary IMHO:

I'm confused by the IANA Considerations section.  It looks like a verbatim copy from RFC 5549 which made the original registration for "Extended Next Hop Encoding", but this isn't actually a new registration.  Shouldn't this therefore be something like the following?

NEW:

RFC 5549 added "Extended Next Hop Encoding" to the Capability Codes registry, which was created by [RFC5492].  IANA is requested to update the definition of that entry to refer instead to this document.


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Thanks for this document.  It was easy to read even for people like me who don't get involved in routing too much.

Thank you also for the shepherd writeup, which (unlike most lately) actually answered the question "Why is this the proper type of RFC?"