Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE

Roman Shpount <rshpount@turbobridge.com> Thu, 02 March 2017 23:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE
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Charles,

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com>
wrote:

> [cue] We define the proto field value UDP/TLS/BFCP in this draft for BFCP
> over DTLS. Would it not be more straightforward and consistent to define
> the new proto value as TCP/UDP/TLS/BFCP instead of TCP/DTLS/BFCP?
>
>
>
I am trying to keep proto names as close as possible to
draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp. I understand that there are already
implementations which use UDP/TLS/BFCP so we cannot change it to the
technically correct value which is UDP/DTLS/BFCP. After all, we are using
DTLS transport, which is different from TLS.

Since there are no implementations of TCP/DTLS/BFCP, we should use the
technically correct protocol string. There is no UDP layer in TCP/DTLS/BFCP
transport stack, since DTLS packets are passed directly to RFC4571 shim.
Because of this I think TCP/DTLS/BFCP value is accurate and appropriate.

Regards,
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Roman Shpount