Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE
Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com> Sun, 02 July 2017 14:48 UTC
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Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2017 16:48:27 +0200
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Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE
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A new draft version of the draft (!) is about to be committed. I do believe all the issues in this thread are considered and handled. Please, verify if you have time. Diff to previous version: https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-16.txt&url2=http://ellevilla.it/tmp/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-17.txt This about to be the new version: http://ellevilla.it/tmp/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-17.txt -- Tom On 6 April 2017 at 21:26, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote: > Please see inline with [cue]. > > > > *From: *Roman Shpount <rshpount@turbobridge.com> > *Date: *Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 11:16 AM > *To: *Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com> > *Cc: *Charles Eckel <eckelcu@cisco.com>, Tom Kristensen < > tomkrist@cisco.com>, Tom Kristensen <tomkri@ifi.uio.no>, "bfcpbis@ietf.org" > <bfcpbis@ietf.org>, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>, > Paul Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>, Christer Holmberg < > christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> > *Subject: *Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis > required to enable ICE > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On 2 March 2017 at 23:14, Roman Shpount <rshpount@turbobridge.com> wrote: > > 1. In Section 3, we need to define an additional proto field value: > TCP/DTLS/BFCP, which is realized by running BFCP on top of DTLS as descibed > in this specification and running DTLS on top of TCP is realized using the > framing method defined in RFC4571, with DTLS packets being sent and > received instead of RTP/RTCP packets using the shim defined in RFC4571 so > that length field defined in RFC4571 precedes each DTLS message. All > sections of the document should be updated to include the TCP/DTLS/BFCP > transport. > > > > This was questioned by Charles and I agree with the conclusion, backwards > and forward compliancy is good although confusing/differing "syntax". > > > > I am not sure if this means you want to change this somehow or that you > are going to update the draft with TCP/DTLS/BFCP. I agree that the syntax > is not ideal but it is in line with other documents such as dtls-sdp or > sctp-sdp. > > > > [cue] I believe this was meant to express agreement with the consensus > that while not perfect, adding TCP/DTLS/BFCP to the draft is the best of > the alternatives explored. > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > > The id-nits checker made me aware of RFC 8122 obsoleting RFC 4572, I > reckon the additions necessary from the draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is > covered in the new RFC 8122 or not? > > > > draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is now published as RFC 8122, so references > to RFC 4572 should be updated to RFC 8122 > > > > The rest sounds good. > > > > When you publish the updated version I will review and provide comments. I > will also sync comments which were made against the ICE Considerations > section of sctp-sdp with your draft. > > > > Regards, > > _____________ > > Roman Shpount > -- # http://folk.uio.no/tomkri/ | +47 9516 1107 (m) ## http://facebook.com/tomkri/ | xmpp:tomkri@jabber.no ### "Å leve er å ta stilling. Jeg hater likegyldige mennesker.", A. Gramsci
- [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bi… Roman Shpount
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Roman Shpount
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Roman Shpount
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Tom Kristensen
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Roman Shpount
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Tom Kristensen
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc45… Tom Kristensen