Re: [Bier] WG Meeting Notes

Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2015 19:05 UTC

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Thanks for the feedback. I've incorporated the changes and published the
minutes.

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/bier.html

Cheers,
Greg

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <
robmgl@cisco.com> wrote:

>  Hi Greg,
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> >  Maglianna?/Cisco: Title should imply it applies to IPv4/IPv6.
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> Could you please replace Maglianna with Roberta Maglione?
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> Thanks
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> Roberta
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> *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shepherd
> *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 7:57 PM
> *To:* bier@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [Bier] WG Meeting Notes
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> Please read and respond  with approval or corrections. Thanks!
>
> Greg
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> Welcome, Notewell, Agenda bash                  chairs
> 5 min
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> draft-pfister-bier-mld-00                    Pierre Pfister               10
> min
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>   Pierre presenting
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>   Draft is so far only? Draft for dynamically tying BIER to IP multicast
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>   flows (flow overlay layer).
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>   Targeted for small/averaged sised networks.
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>   Shep Q: Do you have a specific use case in mind ?
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>   A: Could be applied to homenet.
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>   A: Simple not only wrt. scale but also overall solution complexity.
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>   BMLD queriers, BMLD Queriers
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>   Slide 6: changes required to MLD.
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>   Open issues (slide 8): prevent duplicate forwading.
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>   Prevent duplicated packet from leaving the network.
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>   Q Shep: Ingres/egres forwarder duplication mechanisms
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>   are different from each other.
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>   Maglianna?/Cisco: Title should imply it applies to IPv4/IPv6.
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>   Andrew Doglanv: Looks like extending BIER domain to access side.
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>   might be better to enhance BIER itself.
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> draft-ietf-bier-architecture-01
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> draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-01 Ijsbrand Wijnands       15 min
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> Ice presenting
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>   Implementations should support in parallel 2 bitstring lengths
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>   to allow migration from one to the other.
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> draft-ietf-bier-mvpn-01                                   Mahesh Sivakumar
> 10 min
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> Mahesh presenting
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> draft-xu-idr-bier-extensions-02                       Xiaohu Xu
> 10 min
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> Peter from Cisco: BGP draft moved TLV into sub-TLV which is inconsistent
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> in the encoding scheme to the IGP BIER extensions. Please make it
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> consistent in encoding.
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> Ice: Does exactly announce the properties of BIER like the IGP extensions,
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> networks only running BGP will need this. Looks good. Would like to
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> see this adopted.
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> Call for adoption being put onto the list.
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> draft-eckert-bier-te-arch-01                Toerless Eckert
> 10 min
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> Ice: SI should be changed to sub-domains
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> Greg Mersky: Do you plan TE encap to also be MPLS?
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> Toerless: Any encap will work.
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> Ice: How to route TE from SPF traffic - we announce a different label in
> the IGP for TE
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> Call for adoption being put onto the list.
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> draft-mirsky-bier-oam-requirements-00          Gregory Mirsky
> 10 min
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> No questions.
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> Call for adoption will be put to the list.
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> draft-kumarzheng-bier-ping-01                       Gregory Mirsky
> 10 min
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> No questions
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> draft-zzhang-mpls-icmp-bier-01                     Jeffrey Zhang
> 10 min
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> claification question: sam aldrin: TTL exiry - Tunnel Transport Label.
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> Proposed procedure is that instead of dropping packet it would generate
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> signaling. This is generalizing whats done for IPv4/IPv6 packets.
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> XX, Ericsson: BIER packet does not have any IP information.
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> where is ICMP packet sent to: to local host, from there on it is
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> label switched to BFIR.
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> Ice: BFIR is in BIER packet, so should be possible to "send back"
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> packet equally to how it's done in MPLS networks for ICMP of IPv4/IPv6
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> packets.
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> Greg: not working group item yet. will consider WG adoption call.
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> draft-chh-bier-bier-yang-00                Ran Chen                     10
> min
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