Re: [Bier] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dhanaraj-bier-lsr-ethernet-extensions-00.txt

Senthil Dhanaraj <senthil.dhanaraj.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 31 January 2019 09:37 UTC

Return-Path: <senthil.dhanaraj.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F82B12DF72 for <bier@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:37:28 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MAzH-Xc8FEiF for <bier@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:37:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ed1-x531.google.com (mail-ed1-x531.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::531]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F896128D09 for <bier@ietf.org>; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:37:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ed1-x531.google.com with SMTP id d39so1971364edb.12 for <bier@ietf.org>; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:37:25 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xVLylVC4rCRr7oR4DSBf+GP+kXLDdvz7mOvoB72vS3k=; b=CuYvZHxFr1u1impDJoVhEAu0FeOV6fedBq/MKOKlc8o3yi95HxYfVa8pMdsjDhsjph NU3IDT1RKf2+W2VTieh/khCJ3Yp0xy6VhsZ02Frsjt8pWScUlpMklRM8lsHs3uUdQQOA 5x+5CejNBihBBVsjaNl5OcB5uGI7ztCyUUghte9+ZYwXCVE++IwKk5euYRv5P2XI8s6B /YfyGzgUSEBb7V/pxybyD+UiWq9RmNkVSgdQVoDY2qVVJDT3oBtORcwbj9zOKKbOi9nV vbCVmRoCYR8jBU+AZb1QnjTbOxv1XpzWEZTvfZdP5vyB9aRiwRmTRNJQlPRaRXI6uQuo Jy/Q==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xVLylVC4rCRr7oR4DSBf+GP+kXLDdvz7mOvoB72vS3k=; b=lwi8QLs4eYcih5D+BviJOeSy8olsrfWiLKCPFtPgbUCZXkiRomQRoSKRuipKvJRsyP bmVv7QcI62jTMBQIPkxLF/tWoaSkYA9jkyg0Ra3dRL0/Su+uoS2cN9YJfBI1Q48PG3KE BhL7THFyBzM0bbiJHoBi9XfK3iFeX8eG4PrOcwa1bvu38e06Ok9jjdV+4VP8CNWIjlZA hLYBfew9y6keWef04mjsDRDWEjvOhUln/6Wq9E1DPB5YX9XZrLo0zMJ+MO+uvY/WWede W1Mj7o0fTliENynD1F6vhISYv7PeSY9tcIUFABhq0kajgrZOVxDW1kYFbXSsn0N4nCII k/Iw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuYhVZjsEC3Saqm3ol7x16srxgajwppX9CcbBRyKhnvMGbFXOQr5 s6hRTK+FUmfzHipjmy8syVE9P/xjZAo7v73MZFM=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3Iba/apwll6u5hhSkpBOUsIFUShKBqOlxdDq150FfxI6bnVr97pCju4gejBvZFUMEo0FjEUAZf/hDwATkuxmLO0=
X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1191:: with SMTP id n17mr9336192eja.47.1548927443543; Thu, 31 Jan 2019 01:37:23 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <154877023348.7779.14399559135835846910.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <CAG9=0bLRkOqBb2Hf1BfXDokR913KK5wD8fDBw89YjsxhPr81uw@mail.gmail.com> <16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB7FF732@nkgeml514-mbx.china.huawei.com> <CAG9=0bJH-FgkhiaoZub2cOwE7YOAnyQxWM_4AVKNYBE1oQkixQ@mail.gmail.com> <CO2PR05MB24550D5BCA9A8AD6F06D5BA8D4900@CO2PR05MB2455.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR05MB24550D5BCA9A8AD6F06D5BA8D4900@CO2PR05MB2455.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
From: Senthil Dhanaraj <senthil.dhanaraj.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 15:08:33 +0530
Message-ID: <CAG9=0b+dmH+0TQzdZ0GsuCBuLnWLS=piduYL=Hxui26dwGw71w@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net>
Cc: Xiejingrong <xiejingrong@huawei.com>, BIER WG <bier@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e2a760580bdc6b6"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bier/8FAWrotaitukZ3-Xk7lCJJ_rr5M>
Subject: Re: [Bier] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dhanaraj-bier-lsr-ethernet-extensions-00.txt
X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" <bier.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/bier>, <mailto:bier-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/bier/>
List-Post: <mailto:bier@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bier-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier>, <mailto:bier-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 09:37:28 -0000

Hi Jeffrey,

I meant that "reserved special purpose BIFT-id" could also be used for
cases like PHP.
This way, we may avoid having to add new sub-TLV's like "PHP sub-sub-TLV".

Keeping PHP case aside, In general, Do you think we should reserve a space
[0 - 15] as special purpose BIFT-id's?

Thanks,
Senthil


On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:29 PM Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net>
wrote:

> For the specific case of PHP, it does not use a special BIFT-ID to signal
> PHP (especially when you consider the fact that we’re talking about
> “BIFT-ID”). The php draft says:
>
>
>
>    A BIER incapable router, if acting as a multicast flow overlay
>
>    router, MUST signal its BIER information as specified in [RFC8401
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8401>] or
>
>    [I-D.ietf-bier-ospf-bier-extensions] or [I-D.ietf-bier-idr-
>
>    extensions], with a PHP sub-sub-TLV included in the BIER sub-TLV
>
>    attached to the BIER incapable router's BIER prefix to request BIER
>
>    PHP from other BFRs.  The sub-sub-TLV's type is TBD, and the length
>
>    is 0.
>
>
>
>    With MPLS encapsulation, the BIER incapable multicast flow overlay
>
>    router MAY omit the BIER MPLS Encapsulation sub-sub-TLV, or MUST set
>
>    the Label Range Base in BIER MPLS Encapsulation sub-sub-TLV to
>
>    Implicit Null Label [RFC3032 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3032>].
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
>
> *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Senthil
> Dhanaraj
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:02 AM
> *To:* Xiejingrong <xiejingrong@huawei.com>
> *Cc:* BIER WG <bier@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-dhanaraj-bier-lsr-ethernet-extensions-00.txt
>
>
>
> Hi Xiejingrong,
>
>
>
> RFC8296 do not reserve any BIFT-id's (for non-mpls networks) to be used
> for special purposes.
>
>
>
> But yes, it might be a good idea to reserve a BIFT-id range to be used for
> special purposes in non-MPLS networks.
>
> One use case i can think of is PHP (use special values like Implicit NULL,
> Explicit NULL label in MPLS) which could be applied to non-MPLS networks as
> well like BIER over Ethernet.
>
>
>
> BIER'ers, kindly shoot your opinion !
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Senthil
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:54 AM Xiejingrong <xiejingrong@huawei.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi  Senthil
>
> I have one comment/question:
>
> Section 1, is BIFT-id 1/2/3/4/5/6 been allowed in non-mpls case?
>
>
>
> In MPLS encapsulation, value 0 to 15 is reserved and should not be allowed
> as BIER label I guess.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jingrong
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Senthil
> Dhanaraj
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 10:04 PM
> *To:* BIER WG <bier@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [Bier] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-dhanaraj-bier-lsr-ethernet-extensions-00.txt
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Renamed draft-dhanaraj-bier-isis-non-mpls-extensions to
> draft-dhanaraj-bier-lsr-ethernet-extensions
>
>
>
> Major updates:
>
> 1) Added packet format details for OSPFv2 as well
>
> 2) Updated text to better explain the signalling of BIFT-id's
>
> 3) Renamed "non-mpls" to "ethernet" as this specific draft covers only
> "BIER over Ethernet".
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Senthil
>
>