[Bier] Fwd: Future of BIER OAM work

[Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>]

Dear Greg, Tony et al.,
it looks like the work on draft-ietf-bier-ping is not moving forward. I
proposed updates addressing the draft's Shepherd but have not heard back
for a long time. Since then, the draft has expired. Also, two WG drafts
depend on this work's progress and are ready to move forward
(draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery and draft-ietf-bier-bfd). I greatly
appreciate it if you consider this situation and help in progressing this
work.

Regards,
Greg

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: Future of BIER OAM work
To: Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) <[e-mail]>
Cc: Greg Shepherd <[e-mail]>, zhang.zheng <[e-mail]>,
Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <[e-mail]>, Carlos Pignataro
(cpignata) <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <
[e-mail]>


Hi Nagendra,
I hope that you are well.
Hd got a chance to look through my notes to the working version of the
draft? Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Regards,
Greg

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 1:16 AM Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Nagendra,
> thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my comments and
> suggestions. I've reviewed the draft's new working version and added
> several comments and proposed updates. Please let me know if you have any
> further questions.
>
> Kind regards,
> Greg
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 6:33 AM Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Greg and Team,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the delay. I have the edits included. Please review and let me
>> know your thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nagendra
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> *Date: *Friday, May 6, 2022 at 12:24 PM
>> *To: *Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) <[e-mail]>
>> *Cc: *Greg Shepherd <[e-mail]>, Tony Przygienda <
>> [e-mail]>, BIER WG Chairs <[e-mail]>, zhang.zheng
>> <[e-mail]>
>> *Subject: *Re: Future of BIER OAM work
>>
>> Hi Nagendra,
>>
>> happy to hear from you and hope that everything is well on your side.
>>
>> In the attached version you can find several proposals addressing
>> Shepherd's comments. Please free to use them as you find them. Let me know
>> if there's anything else I can help you with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 12:18 PM Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>
>>
>> Apologies for the delay. I have been trying to pick this up again. I was
>> between some changes.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working with Mankamana., Will get this draft updated soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Nagendra
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> *Date: *Friday, May 6, 2022 at 3:17 PM
>> *To: *Greg Shepherd <[e-mail]>
>> *Cc: *Tony Przygienda <[e-mail]>, Nagendra Kumar Nainar
>> (naikumar) <[e-mail]>, BIER WG Chairs <[e-mail]>,
>> zhang.zheng <[e-mail]>
>> *Subject: *Re: Future of BIER OAM work
>>
>> Hi Greg and Tony,
>>
>> have you heard anything about Nagendra's availability to drive the BIER
>> ping work? We just updated another draft, BIER BFD, where a new BIER Ping
>> TLV is used to bootstrap a p2mp BFD session. Without this IANA registry
>> being created as the result of publishing BIER Ping BIER BFD cannot
>> progress.
>>
>> Greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 4:22 PM Greg Shepherd <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> I just reached out to Man to see if he knows what Nagendra's status is. I
>> know Man is still with c.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Shep
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 10:12 AM Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I hope this note finds you well. Do you have any updates on the state of
>> the draft-ietf-bier-ping? I haven't heard back from Nagendra for quite some
>> time. I hope that everything is fine on his side.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:51 PM Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> attached, please find a copy of the draft that Nagendra prepared
>> addressing comments from Shepherd's review with my proposals.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:35 AM Tony Przygienda <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> what your suggestion for the ping stuff? I can reach to the authors but
>> without a carrot/stick it's just noise. You have alternate authors that
>> would c arry if forward and maintain? editor?
>>
>>
>>
>> -- tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 5:55 PM Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. Patience is a virtue
>> that I need to practice more. Would appreciate it if you can reach out to
>> the authors of draft-ietf-bier-ping prompting needed actions. As I've
>> mentioned, I've proposed several changes to the version that addresses
>> comments received in Shepherd's review of the draft.
>>
>> I'll check the status of the BIER BFD draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 8:30 AM Tony Przygienda <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hey, AFAIS this stuff is chucking fwd, the new ioam is also looking
>> interesting IMO
>>
>>
>>
>> so, polish until ready for LC then ping us, AFAIS ping expired, needs
>> refresh
>>
>>
>>
>> -- tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:09 AM Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Greg and Tony,
>>
>> I greatly appreciate your thoughts, suggestions on the way forward with
>> WG drafts related to OAM:
>>
>>    - draft-ietf-bier-ping
>>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-ping/>
>>    - draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery
>>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery/>
>>    - draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam
>>    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-pmmm-oam/>
>>
>> Perhaps you can address this issue in your overview at the meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>