Re: [Bier] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com> Mon, 23 October 2017 18:23 UTC
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From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:23:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Bier] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Mirja, in fact, a good observation. My take would be 1) Reference to 3032 is good. Limited to IP frames in BIER frames obviously 2) For non-IP frames BIER faces the same challenges as MPLS or SPRING or any other technology where the L2(.5) encaps is non-neglectible. Not better or worse for that manner. Issue started with PPoE ;-) and if one doesn't do MTU discovery and adjusts accordingly, not much beside OAM unreachables can be done for things like L2 frames. 3) Generally, https://tools.ietf.org/wg/bier/draft-ietf-bier-path-mtu-discovery/ is available and allows efficient multicast MTU discovery. I don't think a reference is needed in this draft since it's not really encapsulation related. 4) Morever, extensive PING document is available for out-of-band or in-band continuity check in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bier-ping-02 . Again, I don't think it needs referencing in this document As to BSL bits, more bits are always nice and we may have future versions of BIER encaps to go ... --- tony On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote: > Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation-10: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bier-mpls-encapsulation/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > My understanding is that this document specifies a new encapsulation. As > such > it should also discuss path MTU discovery and fragmentation. Maybe a > pointer to > section 3 of rfc3032 is sufficient. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Nit: > Given that the BSL can only ever have 7 values, I'm wondering why 4 > instead of > 3 bits are used, but that's not important... > > >
- [Bier] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-bi… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [Bier] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-iet… Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Bier] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-iet… Eric C Rosen