Re: [bmwg] draft-cerveny-bmwg-ipv6-nd

"Marius Georgescu" <liviumarius-g@is.naist.jp> Mon, 16 March 2015 14:11 UTC

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From: Marius Georgescu <liviumarius-g@is.naist.jp>
To: "'Cerveny, Bill'" <wcerveny@arbor.net>
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Hello Bill,

 

Regarding DAD, I was thinking something like DAD Delay (time during which the Tentative Address is not

usable) can be considered a performance benchmark. An analytical performance study  for the most popular DAD strategies is presented in:  <http://www.researchgate.net/publication/4316259_Fast_Duplicate_Address_Detection_for_Mobile_IPv6> http://www.researchgate.net/publication/4316259_Fast_Duplicate_Address_Detection_for_Mobile_IPv6 

 

Best regards,

Marius Georgescu

 

From: Cerveny, Bill [mailto:wcerveny@arbor.net] 
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Subject: Re: [bmwg] draft-cerveny-bmwg-ipv6-nd

 

Hi Marius,

 

Thanks for your comments. I had been reluctant to expand the scope beyond that described by RFC6583, at least partially to keep the document focused and perhaps to help expedite the document's publication. 

 

A question I have though ... what performance benchmarks would there be for DAD or NUD? One of the challenges we've had regarding draft-cerveny-bmwg-ipv6-nd is to confirm that the tests are reporting performance and not compliance ...

 

Thanks,

 

Bill Cerveny

 

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Marius Georgescu <liviumarius-g@is.naist.jp <mailto:liviumarius-g@is.naist.jp> > wrote:

I think this draft is a very good initiative and I support its adoption. I also have a question/comment.

I understand that the draft is targeting the ND resilience problems described by RFC6583. However, I was wondering if it wouldn’t be beneficial to add benchmarking tests that can cover the performance of some other functions of ND devices (as presented in RFC4861), such as: Duplicate Address Detection (may be very useful for mobile IPv6) or Neighbor Unreachability Detection.

Best regards,
Marius Georgescu


On Mar 1, 2015, at 5:55, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmorton@att.com <mailto:acmorton@att.com> > wrote:

> Hi Bill and Ron,
>
> I made some time to read your latest update on a plane ride.
> This draft seems to have a few areas for further
> development, but otherwise in very good shape.
>
> I attach my comments,
> Al
> (as a participant)
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