Re: [bmwg] an ID for BMWG to consider
"Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com> Mon, 01 November 2004 16:52 UTC
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From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [bmwg] an ID for BMWG to consider
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>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Kevin Dubray wrote: >>The implication on IP devices is an important component to consider. >>Anyone care to list those implications for the less than >>802.11 savvy amongst us? (It appears the proposed document hopes >>that RFC1242 et al. makes that binding.) > >Here are just some quick examples off the top of my head. I'm sure >there are others: > >1. Throughput -- The air is a very lossy medium, and thus zero-loss >measurements such as throughput aren't meaningful. We should not >abuse the 1242 definition by attempting to label as "thoughput" >measureme Apropos of air as a medium, doesn't RFC 1149 cover that? >nts that involve loss. > >2. Delay, jitter, and other time-related metrics -- The 802.11 >protocols acknowledge every single frame at L2 and also send >significant amounts of control traffic. Headwinds. Sidewinds... > >While it's possible (though uncommon) to measure delay of individual >packets or instantaneous jitter from two packets, those probably >won't be meaningful indicators of how long a DUT/SUT holds up >application traffic. There are probably more meaningful, >WLAN-specific goalposts to be defined. > >3. 802.11-specific stuff -- There are some WLAN events, such as >roaming time, that existing bmwg methodologies do not describe. Pigeon mating season, roaming...the resemblance of this to RFC 1149, much less the update with QoS extensions, is becoming frightening. _______________________________________________ bmwg mailing list bmwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg
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