Re: [bmwg] [RTG-DIR] bmwg Digest, Vol 200, Issue 6

Sudhin <sudhinjacob@rediffmail.com> Fri, 18 June 2021 03:09 UTC

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Hi Joel,

Sure, I will put a note.

Regards,
Sudhin

From: &quot;Joel M. Halpern&quot; &lt;jmh@joelhalpern.com&gt;
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Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] bmwg Digest, Vol 200, Issue 6
&nbsp;iWe couldn&#39;t verify the sender of this email.Thank you Sudhin. &nbsp;If the observations have to be generic, then could
you at least say that this will be measured by observing the network
management counters that the implementations has chosen to expose? &nbsp;And
maybe even note that this will likely need to be specific to the
implementation as said coutners are not currently standardized?

Yours,
Joel

On 6/17/2021 6:22 AM, Sudhin wrote:
&gt; Hi Joel,
&gt;
&gt; Thank you for the comments. Appreciate it. Kindly find the answers
&gt; inline and the modification will be done shortly, I will update the new
&gt; version in a couple of days.
&gt;
&gt; Regards,
&gt; Sudhin
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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1. Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-08
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(Joel Halpern via Datatracker)
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&gt; Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:59:12 -0700
&gt; From: Joel Halpern via Datatracker &lt;noreply@ietf.org&gt;
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&gt; Subject: [bmwg] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-bmwg-evpntest-08
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&gt; Reviewer: Joel Halpern
&gt; Review result: Has Issues
&gt;
&gt; I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The
&gt; Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as
&gt; they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special
&gt; request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the
&gt; Routing ADs.
&gt; For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see
&gt; ?http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir
&gt; &lt;http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir==&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it
&gt; would
&gt; be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call
&gt; comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion
&gt; or by
&gt; updating the draft.
&gt;
&gt; Document: draft-name-version.txt
&gt; Reviewer: your-name
&gt; Review Date: date
&gt; IETF LC End Date: date-if-known
&gt; Intended Status: copy-from-I-D
&gt;
&gt; Summary:
&gt; I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
&gt; resolved
&gt; before publication.
&gt;
&gt; Major Comments: N/A
&gt;
&gt; Minor Comments:
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Reading section 3.1 on the rate for learning addresses, I am left
&gt; guessing
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; how the procedure is to be performed. &nbsp; The text references RFC 2889
&gt; section
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5.8, but only for the meaning for the terms. &nbsp; The test procedure is
&gt; clearly
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; different since that test relies on observing flooding. &nbsp; As best I can
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; guess, the test assumes that there is an observable (Netconf ? YANG ?)
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; variable that reports how many local MAC addresses the device under test
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; has learned. &nbsp; It would be good to be more explicit about that, if
&gt; possible
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; pointing to the YANG module that defines the parameter to be observed.
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;A similar clarification would be helpful on section 3.2 (on control
&gt; plane MAC
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;learning). It probably would be helpful if sections 3.3 and 3.4 then
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;referenced sections 3.1 and 3.2 respectively for what is being
&gt; observed. This
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;probably applies to section 4 as well. &nbsp; If the same variables are to
&gt; be used,
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;then a simple reference to the earlier description would seem to suffice.
&gt;
&gt; Sudhin&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it must be generic because not all the evpn features are
&gt; supported in Yang models and it is up to the user choice that is reason
&gt; any specific ways to capture the data is omitted.
&gt;
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;I believe that section 3.8 on high availability is intended to cause a
&gt; switch
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;of traffic path from DUT to MHPE2. &nbsp; &nbsp;However, the text in that section
&gt; never
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;refers to MHPE 2. &nbsp; It refers to switch of routing processor. &nbsp; It is
&gt; possible
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;that this is intended to be a redundancy test within DUT. &nbsp; If so, it would
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;help to be more explicit, since as far as I know we do not standardize
&gt; that
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;behavior.
&gt;
&gt; I am left puzzled as to the need for MHPE2 in these tests. &nbsp; I assume
&gt; there is
&gt; some obvious and simple reason for including it that I missed. &nbsp; Could
&gt; you add
&gt; an explanation?
&gt;
&gt; Sudhin&gt;&gt;&gt; MHPE2 is very much needed in multi homing scenario, it plays
&gt; as a standby role in testing, sure will add an explnation in the section
&gt;
&gt; &nbsp; &quot;Test Setup Configuration&quot;.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Nits:
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; At the end of section 2, the text reads &quot;The X is used as variable...&quot;
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Could you change that to &quot;The X below is used as a variable ...&quot;? &nbsp; I
&gt; spent
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; some time looking backwards for the X.
&gt;
&gt; Sudhin &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sure
&gt;
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;The equation at the end of section 3.9 (ARD / ND scaling) is somewhat
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;misleading. &nbsp; It uses the same v1, v2, ..vn in successive lines to
&gt; implicitly
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;refer to the IPv4 measurements and the IPv6 measurements. &nbsp; It would be
&gt; good
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;to name these separately, as obviously the same calculation can not
&gt; produce
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;two different results.
&gt;
&gt; Sudhin&gt;&gt;&gt; sure will change.
&gt;
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