[bmwg] Re2: Preliminary AD review of draft-ietf-bmwg-benchmarking-stateful

Gabor LENCSE <lencse@hit.bme.hu> Fri, 12 April 2024 15:44 UTC

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Subject: [bmwg] Re2: Preliminary AD review of draft-ietf-bmwg-benchmarking-stateful
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Hi Warren,

I have eliminated all occurrences of first person singular ("we", "our") 
in version "06" of our I-D.

We are looking forward to your full AD review.

Best regards,

Gábor

On 4/11/2024 10:09 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Hi there authors and WG,
>
> Firstly, massive apologies for how long this (preliminary) review has 
> taken; I usually get these done much more quickly, but travel (ICANN, 
> then IETF) got in the way, and then I wanted to discuss this with the 
> rest of the IESG.
>
> There is some fairly strong pushback on amount of the use of "we" - 
> some examples:
> First, we discuss why using pseudorandom port numbers with stateful 
> NATxy gateways is a hard problem.
> Then we recommend a solution.
> We follow the same approach: first, we use a single source and 
> destination IP address pair, and then we explain how to use multiple 
> IP addresses.
> We define the most important elements of our proposed 
> benchmarking system as follows. […]
>
> This makes the document sound much more like an academic paper than a 
> WG consensus document. While this will require a fairly large number 
> of changes (there are ~56 occurrences of 'we'), I don't think that it 
> will actually be that hard to fix — in many cases it is simply 
> s/We/This document/.
>
> While I'm sure it is annoying to have to make these sort of editorial 
> changes, I figure that it's better to let you know now, instead of 
> waiting until it reached IESG eval, and then end up with a bunch of 
> DISCUSS ballots…
>
> W
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