Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-02.txt
"Les Bell" <Les_Bell@eur.3com.com> Tue, 29 July 2003 09:45 UTC
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From: Les Bell <Les_Bell@eur.3com.com>
To: "C. M. Heard" <heard@pobox.com>
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:44:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-02.txt
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I see your point about the changes to the MODULE-IDENTITY. I agree that we should back out these changes. Are there any guidelines on the Full Copyright statement that should be applied to this document, which re-publishes an external document. I should probably ask the IEEE 802.1 WG chair for suitable text. I have re-checked the id-guidelines at www.ietf.org/ID-nits.html and I agree that the boilerplate should read: This document is an Internet-Draft and is subject to all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026 except that the right to produce derivative works is not granted. I believe the change log section actually is correct in what it says, it summarises the changes from draft -00 to draft -02. Perhaps what it should have done is separately list the changes from -00 to -01 and then from -01 to -02. I agree that it should have a note to the RFC Editor to remove this section before publication. I agree with all of your other comments. Les... "C. M. Heard" <heard@pobox.com>@ietf.org on 29/07/2003 07:02:28 Sent by: bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org To: bridge-mib@ietf.org cc: stds-802-1@ieee.org Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-02.txt On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the > Bridge MIB Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Definitions for Port Access Control (IEEE > 802.1X) MIB > Author(s) : K. Norseth > Filename : draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-02.txt > Pages : 42 > Date : 2003-7-25 > [ ... ] > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-02.txt Greetings, I have three major comments on this draft and few minor ones. MAJOR COMMENT: I see that in going from the -01 to the -02 draft the following changes were made to the MODULE-IDENTITY invocation in the IEEE8021-PAE-MIB: *** 22,34 **** --- 22,52 ---- ieee8021paeMIB MODULE-IDENTITY LAST-UPDATED "200101160000Z" ORGANIZATION "IEEE 802.1 Working Group" CONTACT-INFO "http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/1/index.html" + + ORGANIZATION "IETF Bridge MIB Working Group" + CONTACT-INFO + "Email: Bridge-mib@ietf.org" + + K.C. Norseth + L-3 Communications + Tel: +1 801-594-2809 + Email: kenyon.c.norseth@L-3com.com + Postal: 640 N. 2200 West. + Salt Lake City, Utah 84116-0850 + + Send comments to <bridge-mib@ietf.org> + DESCRIPTION "The Port Access Entity module for managing IEEE 802.1X." + + "Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2003). This version of + this MIB module is part of RFC xxxx; see the RFC itself for + full legal notices." -- ::= { iso(1) std(0) iso8802(8802) ieee802dot1(1) -- ieee802dot1mibs(1) 1 } ::= { iso std(0) iso8802(8802) ieee802dot1(1) ieee802dot1mibs(1) 1 } I believe that these changes (i.e., the added lines marked above with '+') should be backed out. For one thing, the MIB module won't compile when they are present. For another, this MIB module is NOT an IETF MIB module. It is an IEEE MIB module, as the draft explicitly says. Therefore, the IEEE 802.1 WG should remain listed as the ORGANIZATION and its web site should be listed in the CONTACT-INFO. Also, since the IEEE owns the copyright, not the IETF, it seems wrong to insert the standard ISOC MIB copyright here. MAJOR COMMENT: since this draft is republishing an IEEE standard, it the Full Copyright Statement language needs to reflect this fact. The IETF does not own the copyright and does not have change control, but the Full Copyright Statement (which is a verbatim copy of the one in Section 10 of RFC 2026) says otherwise. This needs to be fixed. Note that the version of the Full Copyright Statement that is in RFC 2026 is intended for standards-track documents, not for informational republication of standards from other SDOs. MAJOR COMMENT: the I-D boilerplate should probably have the "except the right to make derivative works" language, since the MIB module is an IEEE standard and change control is not being ceded to the IETF. MINOR COMMENT: in the Abstract, s/SNMPv2 SMI/SMIv2/ MINOR COMMENT: since this version of the MIB module has some updates from the IEEE original in order to correct some MIB compilation errors, it might be a good idea to add a REVISION/DESCRIPTION pair and also to change the LAST-UPDATED clause to match the new REVISION clause. The verbiage at the beginning of Section 4 claims that this stuff is present, but it is not. It might also be a good idea to suggest to the IEEE to post the corrected MIB module on their web site (that would also have the salutary effect of making the ASN.1 comment at the front of the MIB module with the URL less misleading). MINOR COMMENT: the ASN.1 comment that shows the original (incorrect) form for the OID assigned to ieee8021paeMIB is not helpful and should be removed (in general, broken stuff should be removed, not commented out, and the changes should be documented in a REVISION/DESCRIPTION pair). MINOR COMMENT: in the DESCRIPTION clause of dot1xAuthBackendNonNakResponsesFromSupplicant s/Authenticators/Authenticator's/ (the apostrophe was apparently deleted when the non-ascii quotes in the original were converted to ascii). MINOR COMMENT: the change log section is broken. It records the -00 to -01 changes but says otherwise. Also, there should be a note to the RFC Editor indicating that the section is to be removed prior to publication as an RFC. Regards, Mike Heard _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib _______________________________________________ Bridge-mib mailing list Bridge-mib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bridge-mib
- [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-0… Internet-Drafts
- Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… C. M. Heard
- Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… Les Bell
- RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… C. M. Heard
- RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… C. M. Heard
- RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… Les Bell
- RE: [802.1] RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-iet… C. M. Heard
- RE: [802.1] RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-iet… Jim Burns
- Re: [802.1] RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-iet… K.C. Norseth
- Re: [802.1] RE: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-iet… C. M. Heard
- [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-8021x-0… K.C. Norseth
- Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… C. M. Heard
- Re: [Bridge-mib] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-bridge-802… C. M. Heard