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Re: [calsify] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5545 (5505)

Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com> Mon, 01 October 2018 16:57 UTC

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From: Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [calsify] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5545 (5505)
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Steve, Keith,

Have you considered requesting the addition of these missing time zones to the IANA Time Zone database?
Etc/GMT-20
Etc/GMT-23
Etc/GMT-0330 (or whatever TZID IANA comes up with)
Thanks,
Bernard


> Le 28 sept. 2018 à 07:16, Keith Harris <keith@youcanbook.me> a écrit :
> 
> Perhaps TZID=GMT-03:30 is another example of a offset defined zone that can not neatly be done without a colon.
> 
> (Though I agree that there could be a signal here regarding interoperability, but for me it would be to steer away offset zones and towards geographic names: TZID=America/St_Johns)
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> 
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 at 17:50, Steve Allen <sla@ucolick.org <mailto:sla@ucolick.org>> wrote:
> On Thu 2018-09-27T11:09:02-0400 Bernard Desruisseaux hath writ:
> > As you rightly mentioned, we now have the IANA Time Zone Database.
> >
> > Why would someone want / need to specify   TZID=GMT-03:00  instead of  TZID=Etc/GMT-3?
> 
> I would specify TZID=GMT-20:00 and TZID=GMT-23:00, and those are
> not found in IANA Time Zone database.
> 
> For practical purposes, the first is the time zone in which the
> astronomical calendar for Lick Observatory has always been expressed.
> The astronomical day begins at noon local time.  The lack of
> availability of those means that modern computing systems do not
> recognize the traditional day boundaries, so the calendars are
> presented with footnotes to be interpreted by humans.
> 
> The second is the time zone in which the calendar for Keck Observatory
> is expressed.
> 
> > Perhaps this iCalendar inconsistency is actually a good thing for interoperability!
> 
> It is a bad thing for situations which are not common enough to be
> accommodated by the widely-used interfaces.
> 
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