Re: [Captive-portals] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-capport-architecture-03.txt

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Mon, 31 December 2018 03:03 UTC

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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:03:05 +1100
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Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-capport-architecture-03.txt
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Thanks for doing this Kyle.

I see one issue that might be closed.  And a couple that appear to be blocked on discussion.  But this looks close.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, at 04:34, Kyle Larose wrote:
> This update is mostly a refresh until I can spend a bit more time on
> it. Either way, it addresses some of the issues we raised in Montreal.
> 
> Changes
> ------------
> 
> Major Changes:
> - Reduce the scope of the signaling protocol:
>   - Changed many SHOULDs to MAYs
>   - Clarified that the signal is a simple indication that traffic is restricted.
> - Document that the signaling protocol does not provide mechanisms for
> non-binary blocking.
> 
> Minor Changes:
>  - Some small changes to the diagrams
>  - Mention that the identity depends on the network attachment point
>  - Fixed spelling/grammar mistakes
>  - Fixed up some ambiguous phrasing
>  - Changed an example workflow to when conditions are about to expire,
> rather than when they have already expired.