Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on draft-ietf-cbor-edn-literals-05

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Subject: Re: [Cbor] 🔔 WGLC with request for reviews on draft-ietf-cbor-edn-literals-05
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Hi Carsten,

On 2023-11-14 11:27, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> thank you for your review.
>
>> I have only a few minor comments below. Besides that, I think that the document is ready.
>>
>>
>> * Both the abstract and Section 1 mention that two extensions are defined, i.e., "dt" and "cri". Can't the "ip" extension also be mentioned?
> Yes, it should indeed be mentioned.
>
> Actually, I believe the “cri” extension now needs to move to draft-ietf-core-href, as we now can assume that that specification will trail behind the edn-literals specification.
>
> I will create pull requests that move over cri’’ to -href and instead mention ip’’ in the abstract and introduction of -edn.

==>MT
I agree, let's have it in -core-href.
<==

>
>> * In Section 3.2, the last example using "commented out" EDN text includes
>>
>>     "contract": "Herewith I buy" /.../ "gned: Alice & Bob"
>>
>>     Shouldn't this be as below?
>>
>>     "contract": "Herewith I buy/.../gned: Alice & Bob"
> The purpose of the example was to show “commented out” ellipses, i.e., ellipses that will be entirely invisible in any processing by CI etc.
> The /comment/ syntax works inside h’’ byte strings (which do not allow a ‘/‘ otherwise), but not inside in text strings (which do, so the /.../ becomes part of the text string); that’s why the example split the text string into a concatenated text string (Appendix G.4 of RFC 8610) and put the ellipsis into a comment that works in the whitespace between the halfs of the concatenated text string.

==>MT
Right, thanks. I did check RFC 8610, but I focused too much on Appendix 
G.6 while overlooking Appendix G.4 :-)

Best,
/Marco
<==

>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>> On 2023-10-21 10:46, Christian Amsüss wrote:
>>> Hello CBOR group,
>>>
>>> this mail announces the Working Group Last Call on edn-literals[1],
>>> which will end at the Monday of IETF 118 (2023-11-06), in parallel with
>>> the WGLC on draft-ietf-cbor-update-8610-grammar.
>>>
>>> Note that this document has evolved from merely adding application
>>> oriented literals (`dt'2023-01-01'`) to also formalizing diagnostic
>>> notation in ABNF form, filling several gaps and defining a media type
>>> for it.
>>>
>>> While this document has been discussed during interims, all the mailing
>>> list discussion on it has been sparse and dates to whenit was only about
>>> application oriented literals, so: Please have a look at the latest
>>> version. The author was considerate enough to pack the 10 pages of ABNF
>>> details into an appendix, leaving the rest at just 12 screen pages
>>> (thereof 4 IANA considerations). While far be it for me to suggest
>>> skimping on IANA considerations and appendix review, those who want to
>>> review this with a more high-level mindset will find those early pages
>>> to be most relevant to them -- and both kinds of reviews would be very
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> [1]:
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