Re: [Cbor] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-cbor-file-magic-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 20 April 2022 20:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cbor] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-cbor-file-magic-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> On 2022-04-20, at 20:49, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
> 
> I think we should consistently use "designer of [the / a] CBOR Protocol".

Yes.

https://github.com/cbor-wg/cbor-magic-number/pull/21/commits/e4ccccd

Grüße, Carsten


> 
> Barry
> 
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 2:14 PM Michael Richardson
> <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>>> (a) "In both enveloping methods, CBOR Protocol designers need to obtain
>>> a CBOR tag for each kind of object that they might store on disk.
>>> ... The IANA policy for 4-byte CBOR Tags is First Come First Served,
>>> ..."
>> 
>>> (b) "This tag needs to be allocated by the author of the CBOR
>>> Protocol."
>> 
>>> Both of these statements are made in this section and they appear to
>>> conflict.  (a) appears to be saying that CBOR tags will be allocated
>> 
>> I guess it's unclear that "author of the CBOR protocol" is the same as the
>> "protocol designer".   Which term would you prefer we used?
>> 
>> I guess we could write, "designer of the CBOR protocol"?
>> if draft-ietf-cose-cbor-encoded-cert-03, wanted a tag, then that would be
>> John, Goran, S.Raza,... or more collectively, the COSE WG.
>> 
>>> Thank to Chris Wood for the SECDIR review.  Please review the editorial
>>> suggestions posed there.
>> 
>> Roger, wilco.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
>> 
>> 
>> 
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