Re: [Cbor] CDDL check in draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec-default-sc-11

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 30 July 2021 12:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL check in draft-ietf-dtn-bpsec-default-sc-11
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On 2021-07-29, at 19:29, Francesca Palombini wrote:
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> Thanks Thomas! Those are defined in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-31#appendix-B as the text introducing the text mentions.

Which makes me remember the cop-out weasel-word text in front of the appendix.
It’s great that we do have CDDL for BPv7, but I also think that standards-track documents should not only have formal definitions, but be committing to their formal definitions more.

(Not an actionable comment on this document, but something to keep in mind on the way forward.)

Grüße, Carsten