[CCAMP]Re: Fwd: [onions] WG Review: Operationalizing Network & SErvice abstractioNs (onsen)

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To: Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Thanks Ketan,

We'll do it.

Daniele
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Subject: [CCAMP]Fwd: [onions] WG Review: Operationalizing Network & SErvice abstractioNs (onsen)

Hello All,

I wanted to bring the following part of the ONSEN charter to your attention.

"BESS/CCAMP/TEAS: Any network or service level modeling effort
already adopted by these WGs will remain in these WGs. However, ONSEN WG will
take on future network and service data modeling efforts from these WGs."

This is based on discussions before and during the BoF.

I will request the CCAMP chairs to divert future work that fits the ONSEN charter to that working group in collaboration with the ONSEN chairs and the responsible ADs.

If there is a wish to move existing work, please let me know after securing consensus from the CCAMP WG.

Thanks,
Ketan


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A new IETF WG has been proposed in the Operations and Management Area. The
IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was
submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your
comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org<mailto:iesg@ietf.org>) by 2026-06-05.

Operationalizing Network & SErvice abstractioNs (onsen)
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Current status: Proposed WG

Chairs:
  Ian Farrer <ianfarrer@gmx.com<mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com>>
  Mithun Valaphil <mithun.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:mithun.ietf@gmail.com>>

Assigned Area Director:
  Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>>

Operations and Management Area Directors:
  Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>>
  Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>>

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Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/onsen/

Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-onsen/

# Operationalizing Network & SErvice abstractioNs (ONSEN) WG Charter

Large networks rely on service abstraction mechanisms — for example, VPNs,
service function chains, traffic engineering, attachment circuits, and
network slicing — to deliver differentiated services and simplify
provisioning. As the [IAB NEMOPS
workshop](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report/)
highlighted, operational workflows for deploying, monitoring, and evolving
these abstractions are inconsistent and poorly integrated, despite much of
the underlying IETF prior work.

The ONSEN WG aims to make IETF service and network abstractions easier to
implement and use, improving automation, operational efficiency, and
interoperability.

For this WG, the term "abstraction" refers to the process of defining
simplified constructs that represent network and service-level capabilities.
Abstraction enables interaction between managed components and automation
management systems without directly exposing the underlying device-specific
implementations. The layer between the managed components and the automation
management system is referred to as the "abstraction layer".

ONSEN will serve as the IETF's focal point for service and network
abstraction modeling, with these core activities:

1. Documenting the use-cases, scope and priorities for network and service
abstractions for work items identified in the charter. 1. Defining the
abstraction layer, using device-level YANG models as the basis for the
abstraction. As part of that, new service or network-level YANG models will
be developed as needed. 1. Updating key YANG data models, including
refactoring or restructuring, which includes at least the following: VPN
Common Model, L2VPN Service Model (L2SM), L3VPN Service Model (L3SM), L2VPN
Network Model (L2NM), L3VPN Network Model (L3NM), Attachment Circuit Common
Model, Attachment Circuit-as-a-Service (ACaaS), Attachment Circuit Network
Model, Service Attachment Points (SAP), Network Slicing, Service Assurance
for Intent-Based Networking (SAIN), Virtual Network (VN), Abstraction and
Control of TE Networks (ACTN), and the YANG Data Model for Network and VPN
Service Performance Monitoring.

Beyond these, ONSEN will produce informational documents describing
service-layer APIs based on YANG service models for interfacing with OSS/BSS
systems, enabling automated and interoperable service orchestration across
systems and vendors. This includes guidance on mapping IETF YANG data models
to external frameworks (e.g., TMF640) and on interfacing with external
systems (e.g., network source of truth, IP address management). ONSEN will
not normatively define or extend those external frameworks.

## Work Items

1. Develop a problem statement to define the use-cases, scope, and priorities
for the work items already identified in the charter. This should be taken
from existing models, operator input, and the [IAB NEMOPS Workshop
Report](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report/).
1. Assess and update the YANG data models identified in the core activities
1. Develop service and network-level YANG data models for the abstraction
layer 1. Define the interface between YANG-based service APIs and the OSS/BSS
layer

The WG may decide that some documents, such as the problem statement,
use-cases, scope, and priorities, are not intended for RFC publication and
will be maintained as WG documents. For the remaining documents, the intended
status is Proposed Standard.

## Relationship With Existing WGs

* Technology or protocol-specific modeling efforts (e.g., device-level YANG
data models) remain the responsibility of their respective WGs. * ONSEN WG
will engage with other relevant WGs (e.g., NETMOD and NMOP) to gather
requirements and input related to tooling. * Any new requirements for changes
to the YANG language that are identified during ONSEN WG discussions will be
directed to the NETMOD WG for consideration * OPSAWG: ONSEN WG will handle
AC/SAP/L2NM/L3NM work going forward, enabling OPSAWG to focus on other
operational topics. Future abstraction-related work will be directed to
ONSEN. * BESS/CCAMP/TEAS: Any network or service level modeling effort
already adopted by these WGs will remain in these WGs. However, ONSEN WG will
take on future network and service data modeling efforts from these WGs.

## Milestones

| Date           | Milestone | Description | Intended Track |
|----------------|-----------|-------------|:--------------:|
| June 2026      | Send LSes to TMF, 3GPP, BBF, GSMA, Linux Foundation, TIP,
and EANTC about ONSEN | Actively seek collaboration with other organizations
| N/A | | November 2026  | WG adoption of a problem statement draft defining
the use-cases, scope, and priorities for the work items identified in the WG,
with input from operators and the [IAB NEMOPS Workshop
Report](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-nemops-workshop-report/) |
Draft providing a problem statement to define use-cases, scope, and
priorities for the current set of ONSEN activities | Not published as RFC | |
March 2027     | WG adoption of draft updating the YANG network data models
for L3NM and L2NM | Updated drafts for L2NM and L3NM YANG data models based
on operational feedback and deployment experiences, with attention to
operational state data and identified gaps | PS | | March 2027     | WG
adoption of draft that updates the YANG service data models for L3SM and L2SM
| Updated drafts for L3SM and L2SM YANG data models based on operational
feedback and deployment experiences, with attention to operational state data
and identified gaps | PS | | June 2027      | WG adoption of draft updating
the VPN Common Model | Updated draft for the VPN Common YANG data model based
on operational feedback and deployment experiences | PS | | July 2027      |
WG adoption of a draft for Service-layer APIs based on YANG service models to
interface with OSS/BSS | Draft detailing the Service-layer APIs based on YANG
service models to interface with OSS/BSS | PS | | July 2027      | WG
adoption of a draft for new service and network level YANG data models for
the abstraction layer | Draft detailing service and network level YANG data
models | PS | | July 2027      | WG adoption of draft updating the Network
Slicing YANG data model | Updated draft for the Network Slicing YANG data
model based on operational feedback and deployment experiences | PS | |
November 2027  | WG adoption of draft that updates the YANG data model for
the Attachment Circuit Common Model | Updated draft for AC Common YANG data
model based on operational feedback and deployment experiences, with
attention to operational state data and identified gaps | PS | | November
2027  | WG adoption of draft that updates the YANG data model for Attachment
Circuit as a Service (ACaaS) | Updated draft for ACaaS YANG data model based
on operational feedback and deployment experiences, with attention to
operational state data and identified gaps | PS | | November 2027  | WG
adoption of draft updating the YANG data model for Service Assurance for
Intent-Based Networking (SAIN) | Updated draft for the SAIN YANG data model
based on operational feedback and deployment experiences | PS | | November
2027  | WG adoption of draft updating the Virtual Network (VN) YANG data
model | Updated draft for the VN YANG data model based on operational
feedback and deployment experiences | PS | | March 2028     | WG adoption of
draft that updates the YANG data model for the Attachment Circuit Network
Model | Updated draft for AC Network YANG data model based on operational
feedback and deployment experiences, with attention to operational state data
and identified gaps | PS | | March 2028     | WG adoption of draft that
updates the YANG data model for Service Attachment Points (SAP) | Updated
draft for SAP YANG data model based on operational feedback and deployment
experiences, with attention to operational state data and identified gaps |
PS | | March 2028     | WG adoption of draft updating the Abstraction and
Control of TE Networks (ACTN) YANG data model | Updated draft for the ACTN
YANG data model based on operational feedback and deployment experiences | PS
| | March 2028     | WG adoption of draft updating the YANG Data Model for
Network and VPN Service Performance Monitoring | Updated draft for the
Performance Monitoring YANG data model based on operational feedback and
deployment experiences | PS |

Milestones:



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