Re: [CCAMP] Summary of the CCAMP meeting on Optical Impairment Topology YANG model

Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com> Tue, 24 March 2020 09:45 UTC

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Sergio, CCAMP WG,

The proposals are assuming that in the first phase a set of RFCs are published (drafts a, b, c and d, together with layer0-types), to cover the 'spectrum allocation' scenarios.

Do we all agree with the proposed phasing approach?

I think it makes a lot of sense since this model is quite mature (there as few WG LC comments that I guess can be easily and quickly addressed) and allows covering many, even if not all, the use cases that I have seen being requested and deployed

Regarding the versioning issue, I have uploaded on github few slides trying to clarifying the different options:

https://github.com/ietf-ccamp-wg/draft-ietf-ccamp-layer0-types/files/4374340/versioning-00.pptx

I have added a third option where two versions of layer0-types modules are developed in parallel with different revision dates

A fourth option is to follow the guidelines under development by the Versioning DT in Netmod WG but I am not sure how mature they are as well as if they are supported by existing YANG tools

Italo

Italo Busi
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From: Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) [mailto:sergio.belotti@nokia.com]
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Subject: Summary of the CCAMP meeting on Optical Impairment Topology YANG model

During the meeting the major topic been discussed was related to the e-mail exchange regarding [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-yang-23 and in particular the issue raise by Dieter with the mail sent March 10 on , regarding the alignment among the different L0 YANG models with respect ietf-layer0-types.

These are the list of drafts we need to consider
a)       ietf-ccamp-wson-yang;
b)      ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-yang;
c)       ietf-ccamp-wson-tunnel;
d)      ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-media-channel-yang;
e)       ietf-dwdm-if-param-yang;
f)        ietf-ccamp-optical-impairment-topology-yang

There are practically two options on the table:
1)      Go ahead to publish ietf-layer0-types as reference "types" module for the set of drafts addressing "only" specific use cases that basically is  "spectrum allocation" (a,b,c d drafts) , creating in parallel a new ietf-layer0-types-xxx that can be used for ietf-dwdm-if-param-yang and ietf-ccamp-optical-impairment-topology-yang.
In this solution there is the problem to understand if the use case claimed to be supported is possible without e.g. transpoder information like the ones contained in the e, f drafts.
2)      Use "versioning" YANG paradigm, this solution permits to move ahead in parallel two version of the same files "types", and v2 will incorporate all the needed update for e and f drafts.

Before to take any choice, attendees of the call  decided that a careful review of the ietf-layer0-types is needed to understand possible gaps with respect all optical impairments and transponders description .
Moreover a new issue will be open in the ietf-layer0-types github to report optical impairments related comments/concerns.
Attached the e-mail exchange I mentioned at the beginning.

Feel free to amend and add what is missing.

Thanks
Sergio

Sergio Belotti
Senior System Engineer and Standardization Architect
IP/Optical Networks, Optics BU
Nokia
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