RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txt

Ron Bonica <Ronald.P.Bonica@mci.com> Tue, 03 June 2003 14:03 UTC

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From: Ron Bonica <Ronald.P.Bonica@mci.com>
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txt
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RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txtHamid,

That is exactly the intent of requirements 7 and 8.

Requirement 7 says that you can trace through type of tunnel (e.g., GRE,
MPLS). Requirement 8 says that you can trace through heterogeneous, nested
tunnels. This should include any X over any Y as well as any Y over any X.
It should also support multiple levels of nesting (X over Y over Z).


Ron

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Hamid Ould-Brahim [mailto:hbrahim@nortelnetworks.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:38 AM
  To: Ron Bonica; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
  Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txt


  Ron,

  This is a good document. I just have one clarification/comment:

  in the draft:

  "7) Support the following tunneling technologies: GRE, MPLS, IPSEC,
        GMPLS, IP-in-IP, L2TP. Be easily extensible to support new tunnel
        technologies."

  and req. 8 on heterogeneous tunnels.

  I assume the tracing doesn't preclude the case where the IP
  tunnels are carrying MPLS-in-IP or MPLS-in-GRE encapsulation.

  Should that be explicitly mentioned (since it has implication
  on the type)?.

  Hamid.

  >
  > Pleae review this version. It is the most recent.
  >
  >                                 Ron
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  > > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txt
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  > >
  > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
  > > Internet-Drafts directories.
  > > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement
  > > Plane Working Group of the IETF.
  > >
  > >     Title           : Tracing Requirements for Generic Tunnels
  > >     Author(s)       : R. Bonica, K. Kompella, D. Meyer
  > >     Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-tracereq-04.txt
  > >     Pages           : 9
  > >     Date            : 2003-6-2
  > >
  > > This document specifies requirements for a generic route-tracing
  > > application.  It also specifies requirements for a protocol
  > that will
  > > support that application. Network operators will use the generic
  > > route-tracing application to verify proper operation of the IP
  > > forwarding plane. They will also use the application to discover
  > > details regarding tunnels that support IP forwarding.
  > > The generic route-tracing application, specified herein, supports a
  > > superset of the functionality that 'traceroute' currently offers.
  > > Like traceroute, the generic route-tracing application can discover
  > > the forwarding path between two interfaces that are contained by an
  > > IP network. Unlike traceroute, this application can reveal details
  > > regarding tunnels that support the IP forwarding path.
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