Re: [CCAMP] radio-link and carrier-termination iana interface types
tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Wed, 07 November 2018 16:33 UTC
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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] radio-link and carrier-termination iana interface types
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kallimanis Theodoros" <tks@intracom-telecom.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:33 AM Hi Amy I thought that this could have been an addition to RFC 7224: IANA Interface Type YANG Module. I can understand now that this model is considered just as a reflection of the IF-MIB interface types and is intended to be updated only when a new interface type is added in IF-MIB. <tp> That is not quite right. Look at RFC7224 and you will find that it defines the initial contents of the Interface Type YANG module and defines the rules for updating that module, that is that a request is made to IANA for a new interface type and IANA pass the request on to the Designated Expert who decides whether or not to grant the request. If the request for a new interface type is granted, the module is updated; no further process is required. Also, the Interface MIB is updated at the same time so that the SMI and YANG versions of the interface type modules stay in step. Four such changes have been made so far in 2018, courtesy of ITU-T G.959 and G.709. In this case, the I-D, the WG, have made no such request; as I said before, I did give it some thought but took it no further. As you say, these types are then not registered. There could be lots of other unregistered interface types but since they are not registered, we do not know! Tom Petch In the case of RLT and CT interface types, we have two interface types introduced in the Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Model but not yet required to be used in some MIB. So they remain unregistered in IANA. On the other hand, in NETCONF/RESTCONF, no specific ifType numerical value is required and the radio-link-terminal and carrier-termination identities specified in ietf-microwave-types are adequate for this purpose. Thanks for your answers. Theodoros Kallimanis Principal Engineer (Systems & SW) Department SSD ______________________________________ Intracom Telecom 19.7 km Markopoulou Ave., Peania, GR 19002 Building A3, 2nd floor t: +30 2106671961 f: +30 2106671446 m: +30 6941636679 tks@intracom-telecom.com www.intracom-telecom.com -----Original Message----- From: Yemin (Amy) [mailto:amy.yemin@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:01 AM To: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>; Kallimanis Theodoros <tks@intracom-telecom.com>; ccamp@ietf.org; jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com; Marko.Vaupotic@avianet.com Subject: RE: [CCAMP] radio-link and carrier-termination iana interface types Hi Theodoros, I discussed with serveral people at the IETF week, the answer is the same as Tom gave. We cannot use a YANG model to ask for IANA registry for MIB. As YANG is normally used by NETCONF/RESTCONF, MIB is used by SNMP. If there's interest on MIB, another draft should be sumbitted and ask for the registry. BR, Amy ________________________________________ 发件人: tom petch [ietfc@btconnect.com] 发送时间: 2018年11月1日 21:10 收件人: Kallimanis Theodoros; ccamp@ietf.org; jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com; Yemin (Amy); Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com; Marko.Vaupotic@avianet.com 主题: Re: [CCAMP] radio-link and carrier-termination iana interface types ---- Original Message ----- From: "Kallimanis Theodoros" <tks@intracom-telecom.com> To: <ccamp@ietf.org>; <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; <Xi.Li@neclab.eu>; <daniela.spreafico@nokia.com>; <Marko.Vaupotic@avianet.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:27 AM Hello I would like to ask a question regarding to ietf-microwave-types module. For radio-link-terminal and carrier-termination, is it expected that these new interface-types will be also registered at IANA Interface Type registry for IANAifType-MIB? <tp> The strict answer is no, they will not be added to the registry. They are only added when the IANA Cosiderations asks IANA to do so and this I-D makes no such request. If such a request were made, then they would be added both to the IANA-maintained MIB Module and to the IANA-maintained YANG module. I did think of this a year ago and thought them too specific to CCAMP, worth putting into a YANG module but not inflicting them on the IETF at large, but do not think this ever got discussed on the WG list. Tom Petch BEST REGARDS Theodoros Kallimanis Principal Engineer (Systems & SW) Department SSD ______________________________________ Intracom Telecom 19.7 km Markopoulou Ave., Peania, GR 19002 Building A3, 2nd floor t: +30 2106671961 f: +30 2106671446 m: +30 6941636679 <mailto:tks@intracom-telecom.com> tks@intracom-telecom.com <http://www.intracom-telecom.com/> www.intracom-telecom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >
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- Re: [CCAMP] radio-link and carrier-termination ia… tom petch
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