Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-07 and call for shepherd
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From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>, "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-07 and call for shepherd
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Authors, WG, I did my LC review, please find below my comments. Thanks Daniele - Abstract: suggested rephrasing OLD To ensure an efficient data transport, meeting the requirements requested by today's IP-services the control and management of DWDM interfaces are a precondition for enhanced multilayer networking and for a further automation of network provisioning and operation NEW The control and management of DWDM interfaces are a precondition for enhanced multilayer networking. They are needed to ensure an efficient data transport, to meet the requirements requested by today's IP-services and to provide a further automation of network provisioning and operations. OLD This document covers management as well as control plane considerations in different management cases of single channel DWDM interfaces. The purpose is to identify the necessary information elements and processes to be used by control or management systems for further processing. NEW This document covers management and control considerations in different Scenarios of single channel DWDM interfaces. The purpose is to identify the necessary information and processes to be used by control or management systems "for further processing." Not sure what you mean with "for further processing", can you rephrase it? -Introduction. How about this wording? OLD The usage of the single channel DWDM interfaces (e.g. in routers) connected to a DWDM Network (which include ROADMs and optical amplifiers) adds a further networking option for operators allowing new scenarios but require harmonised control and management plane interaction between different network domains. NEW The usage of external single channel DWDM interfaces (e.g. in routers) connected to a DWDM Network (e.g. router connected to a network of ROADMs and optical amplifiers) adds a further networking option for operators but requires an harmonised control and management plane interaction between the different network domains. -Introduction: This sentence is not clear " Carriers deploy their networks today based on transport and packet network infrastructures as domains to ensure high availability and a high level of redundancy." What does it mean? That the separation of the domains is to prodive high availability?Can you explain it a bit better? - Introduction: remove the comma between deployments and where. - Introduction: These 2 sentences are redundant, how about merging in a single one removing duplications? This framework specifies different levels of control and management plane interaction to support the usage of single channel optical interfaces in carrier networks in an efficient manner. The objective of this document is to provide a framework for the control and management of transceiver interfaces based on the corresponding use cases and requirements to ensure an efficient and optimized data transport. - Section 2: s/changes this scenario introducing/change this scenario, by introducing. - Section 2 - FEC: what does it mean (much more that 10-12)? 10 ^-10 - 10 ^-12? - Section 3.1.1. OLD ITU-T G.698.2 for example specifies the parameter set for a certain set of applications. NEW ITU-T G.698.2 for example specifies a set of parameters for a certain number of applications. - Section 4: what does it mean "an umbrella of management systems?" - Section 4 bullet 1a: "Direct connection from the client to the management system", here you mean the NMS of the transport domains, right? Please specify in the text. - Section 4 bullet 2a: I would say "(e.g. LMP)", others might exist. - Section 4.1.1.: I would drop this paragraph, since the first part mandates a usage of SNMP and Netconf/YANG but any of them could be used for the different purposes and the last part puts a strong requirement on the implementation that is outside the scope of the document. "Therefore an extension to this MIB for the optical interface has been drafted in [DWDM-interface-MIB]. SNMP is used to read parameters and get notifications and alarms, netconf and yang models are needed to easily provision the interface with the right parameter set as described in [YANG] Note that a software update of the optical interface components of the client nodes must not lead obligatory to an update of the software of the EMS and vice versa." - Section 4.1.2.: s/can be used/should be used - Section 4.2: "RFC4209 [LMP-WDM] and RFC 4204[LMP]" there is no need to define LMP-WDM and LMP as hooks for the reference, you can use the RFC numbers. - General comment (1 occurrence found in section 4.2): is it appropriate to use the term "black link"? Are the links we are speaking about standard black links? Maybe it is a remaining of old versions? - Section 4.2.1: " a. Using RSVP-TE only for the signalling and LMP as described above to exchange information to configure the optical interface within the edge node or" ...something is missing - Section 4.2.1: " It would be helpful to define some common profiles that will be supported" ...aren't these the application codes? - Section 6. This is an informational document and it's a bit tricky to use RFC2119 language. You can solve the issue like it was done in RFC7698, section 2.1 (thanks Adrian for helping finding a solution). In other words you should insert the following section at the end of section 1.1 " While [RFC2119] describes interpretations of these key words in terms of protocol specifications and implementations, they are used in this document to describe design requirements for protocol extensions." - Requirement 1: A better phrasing is needed, it's hard to read. What about: " In order to ensure a lean management and provisioning of single channel interfaces, the management and control plane of both the client and DWDM network MUST be aware of the right set of parameters. Such parameters define the interfaces and the optical network and are needed to properly setup the optical connection. * General comment: there is still a number of little grammar mistakes and typos. Please while reviewing pay attention also to them. From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: martedì 21 novembre 2017 09:22 To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org> Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-07 and call for shepherd WG, As announced during IETF100 it's now time to start moving forward two documents. This starts a two weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-07. The last call ends on Tuesday December 5th. Please send your comments to the CCAMP mailing list. Also comments along the lines of "I've read the draft and believe it's ready to be published are appreciated". All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk/history/ Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft. If anyone is willing to be the shepherd of the document, please volunteer. Thanks Daniele & Fatai
- [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Gert Grammel
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Dieter Beller
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm… Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe)