Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG
"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 21 August 2008 23:24 UTC
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To: Don Fedyk <dwfedyk@nortel.com>, softwires@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:18:02 +0100
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Hello Don, Thanks for the response. >> 1. A CE is attached by parallel links to a single PE >> >> Suppose the links have the same switching types, but >> different bandwidths. Link-a has plenty of bandwidth >> available with an MTU size of x. Link-b has not much >> bandwidth available with an MTU size of y > x. > > Interface MTU is part of the PSC TE attributes in the our spec. If the > MTUs are different they should not be aggregated. Right. Aggregation in this case is hard to make representative of reality. > Also In L1VPN (LSC and TDM) networks the Switching type > covers Switching granularity (which is like an MTU). Sure. But I wanted to keep in PSC, because that problem represents a single layer network. > I'm trying to understand if you are saying the following text would > fix the problem or you see a larger issue: > "Therefore, such routes and the corresponding TE information > SHALL NOT be aggregated unless they share identical Traffic > Engineering Attributes". The question I am asking is - is the solution to this problem to advertise two routes? (Clearly two is a special case of many.) I don't believe that in the general (non-TE case) we would consider the case of two parallel links between CE and PE as route aggregation. The PE would simply advertise reachability (through itself) to the CE. Hence my question below. >> Normally, we would expect the PE to advertise a single >> piece of reachability information for the CE leaving >> the actual choice of links to be made by the PE. >> >> What would the PE advertise in this case? >> - It cannot aggregate the TE information because that >> would imply that there was lots of bandwidth at the >> larger MTU size. >> - It could include duplicate Switching Capability >> Descriptors, but that would need some clarification as >> duplicate descriptors are intended for different >> switching caps in the IGP RFCs. >> - It could advertise two pieces of reachability >> information, but that would be a change to how the >> implementation currently works. >> 2. There is more than one AS [SNIP] >I remember we discussed this aspect originally in the context of >L1VPNs and limited it to a single AS since L1VPNs Basic Mode >are limited to a single AS. I don't recall if we thought this was >applicable to a multi-AS solution. > >We should clarify this point either way. Thanks. I guess: - if applicable, how? - if not applicable, how prevent? Cheers, Adrian
- BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Adrian Farrel
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Adrian Farrel
- RE: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Don Fedyk
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Adrian Farrel
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG JP Vasseur
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Yakov Rekhter
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Yakov Rekhter
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Adrian Farrel
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG (2nd qu… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: BGP TE attr last call by softwires WG Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Yakov Rekhter
- Re: [Softwires] BGP TE attr last call by softwire… Lou Berger