Re: [CDNi] Jon's commet on draft-ietf-cdni-redirection

"Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Thu, 15 October 2015 23:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CDNi] Jon's commet on draft-ietf-cdni-redirection
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If I recall the substance of my comment was that the cdni-redirection
mechanism works for HTTPS redirection a lot more securely than for DNS
redirection, and that the particular problem with DNS redirection when
using HTTPS (that you will end up seeing a surprising certificate on the
other side of your TLS connection) should be noted since DNS redirection
is in scope of cdni-redirection draft. I don't think the problem needs to
be solved there, but it needs to be acknowledged. Because DNS responses
are insecure (barring DNSSEC), then using DNS for redirection can
introduce the problems discussed in draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation.
Dropping in a reference to that draft, or summarizing the problem, would
suffice.

I don't think the text below really captures that. If this is super
confusing I can send text.

Jon Peterson
Neustar, Inc.

On 10/15/15, 5:25 AM, "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)"
<flefauch@cisco.com> wrote:

>Hi Jon,
>
>We¹ll wait a couple more days to hear back from you on the point below,
>and then move the document forward.
>
>Thanks
>
>Francois
>
>> On 7 Oct 2015, at 14:04, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)
>><flefauch@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jon,
>> 
>> Can you confirm this new rev addresses your comment appropriately?
>> I believe the text that was added for that purpose is:
>> ³
>> 3.1.  Redirection of encrypted traffic
>> 
>>      The Redirection Interface defined in this document might be used to
>> 
>>      redirect a request where the User Agent will subsequently attempt
>>to
>> 
>>      establish a TLS session with the Redirection Target.  In such a
>>case,
>> 
>>      any surrogate or request router to which the User Agent is
>>redirected
>> 
>>      needs to be able to successfully complete the TLS handshake and to
>> 
>>      perform encryption of the TLS channel.  Mechanisms to distribute
>>the
>> 
>>      required information and/or configuration, such as private keys, to
>> 
>>      surrogates and request routers in dCDNs are outside the scope of
>>this
>> 
>>      document.
>> ³
>> 
>