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Re: [Cellar] ffv1 missref status

Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com> Fri, 12 March 2021 21:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cellar] ffv1 missref status
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Hi Michael,

> On Mar 12, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com> wrote:
>> Hi Michael, Spencer, I see that FFV1 is in “RFC Ed Queue” status with
>> with “MISSREF for 8 days” which IIUC means that the RFC editor is
>> awaiting a missing normative reference.
> 
> Yeah.  I think we (chairs) screwed up here.
> 
> It seems that ffv1 has a normative reference to Matroska:
> 
> 9.  Normative References
> 
>   [ISO.15444-1.2016]
>              International Organization for Standardization,
>              "Information technology -- JPEG 2000 image coding system:
>              Core coding system", October 2016.
> 
>   [ISO.9899.2018]
>              International Organization for Standardization,
>              "Programming languages - C", ISO Standard 9899, 2018.
> 
>   [Matroska] IETF, "Matroska", 2019, <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/
>              draft-ietf-cellar-matroska/>.
> 
> 
> So we aren't allowed to normatively reference Internet Drafts.
> It is referenced in section 4.3.3.4 only only.
> I don't think it needs to be a normative reference.
> 
> Our choices are:
>  1) leave things as they are, and finish Matroska faster.  FFV1 will
>     wait for us in the Q.
> 
>  2) ask our AD to approve us changing this reference to informative.
> 
> My reading is that I don't think it needs to be normative.

I agree. Option 2 please. If there’s rough consensus on that, I can submit a patch, but let me know if you would advise a new version.
Dave

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