[Cellar] Re: Introductions and a new I-D that may be appropriate for CELLAR

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

On 3/25/26 6:28 AM, Sam Whited wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm considering asking the secretary 
That's not who you would ask.
> to consider this draft [1] for publication.
Do you mean as an RFC?
>  It's new and likely isn't actually ready yet, 
Which tells you that it is not time to ask _any_ stream to publish this 
as an RFC.
> but I've had a hard time finding folks who want to review it so in the 
> interest of not letting it sit until it expires I'm thinking about 
> pushing it forward to get some AD reviews (it does appear to be 
> relatively complete, so hopefully it's not wasting their time).
>
> If anyone in this working group would like to do further reviews 
> before hand, however, you're the experts and I'd love to get your 
> advice, but I know there's a lot to do and that's a big ask. 
> Similarly, I've only ever submitted through working groups before, so 
> if anyone who's more heavily involved has opinions on the individual 
> submission stream 

Did you mean Independent Submission stream? If so, you'll have to 
convince the Independent Stream Editor that there's a reason to publish 
the document now and that it's not something that the IETF stream should 
publish instead. It would only get an IESG review that covers "Does this 
conflict with IETF work".

If you really meant progressing this as an Individual Submission in the 
IETF stream, you will have to convince an AD to sponsor it. I think 
you'll find that they ask that you gather interest from the community first.

If you didn't participate in realtime, you might find listening to the 
recording of the dispatch session from the most recent IETF informative.

The best use of your time is to continue to try to find interested 
parties to work on further refining the document.

> and wants to share them, I'm certainly willing to listen!
>
> Thank you,
> Sam
>
>
> [1]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-swhited-mka-stems/
>
>
>
> On 2026-02-19 15:19, Sam Whited wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm a former IETF contributor (RFC9622, various other I-D's with the 
>> KITTEN WG) but haven't been around for a long time. I started working 
>> on an I-D recently that I had originally considered for independent 
>> submission, but someone suggested that CELLAR may be an appropriate 
>> place for it.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-swhited-ogg-stems/
>>
>> The TL;DR is that there is currently no open format for encoding 
>> stems, ie. files that contain individual audio tracks for various 
>> instruments or clusters of instruments that DJs, producers, etc. use 
>> to re-mix tracks on the fly. I would like to define a stem format 
>> using OGG wrappers containing FLAC and/or Opus. I read through 
>> CELLAR's description and wasn't sure if it would be an appropriate 
>> fit, so I joined the list and wanted to know if this is something 
>> CELLAR would be interested in adopting or if you'd prefer it remain 
>> an independent submission.
>>
>> Thanks for doing what you do!
>>
>> —Sam
>>