Re: [CFRG] Proposed CFRG process for handling errata

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:21 PM <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> On Sunday, 27 December 2020, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > To be honest, I'm torn.
> >
> > IMO Mike is right that what CFRG is doing is making standards and that
> > that's traditionally the domain of the IETF. OTOH, as Rich, Stephen, and
> > Uri have pointed out, the current process seems to be working well, so
> I'd
> > prefer not to disrupt that. I do think we should acknowledge that these
> are
> > standards (we implement based on them, they're full of normative
> language)
> > and perhaps it's worth looking into the question of how to publish them
> on
> > the standards track. Just thinking out loud, what if the IESG could
> > cherry-pick to-be-published CFRG documents for ST publication
> [potentially
> > at the request of CFRG/IRTFC Chair], do a last call, and if there was
> > consensus, publish them as Proposed Standard RFCs [perhaps on the IETF
> > Stream?].
>
> Not sure how much better that'd be vs. the downref registry?
>

Well, to the extent to which we think that things being labelled as
Standards Track matters, then it seems suboptimal to have a bunch of
documents which are effectively standards (and in many cases are far more
widely deployed than many of our Standards) being Informational.  And if it
doesn't matter, than one might ask why we bother to publish our protocol
specifications as PS.

I recognize that in the past a number of cryptographic algorithms were
brought in as Informational, but those were largely cases like MD5 where we
were just creating a stable reference for something that was externally
developed. ISTM that that's not the case for much of the CFRG's current
work.

-Ekr

> S.
>
>
> >
> > -Ekr
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 1:55 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=
> > 40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I am glad you said “all good points”
> > >
> > > I am worried about making any changes because what we have now is
> working
> > > very well.
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