Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve25519function-00.txt
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Wed, 30 July 2014 19:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve25519function-00.txt
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>>> sean, we also need signatures. would you consider adding ed25519 to >>> this draft or doing a parallel draft? >> We do need signatures, but do we need curve 25519 signatures? > Using the same curve across kx and signatures simplifies specification, > implementation, and deployment. bingo >> Looking through the sets of requirements we have, a curve optimized >> for encryption may not be best for signatures. And writing up how to >> do signatures from a curve is non-trivial (unless its 'do DSA with >> this curve') > Specific to Randy's request, EdDSA is specified in the same paper as > ed25519. i am hoping to learn a lot from/if sean specs ed25519 in parallel. randy
- [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve2551… Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve25519… Sean Turner
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Randy Bush
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Robert Ransom
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Randy Bush
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Tanja Lange
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… James Cloos
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-turner-thecurve… Randy Bush