Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD review comments
Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Wed, 10 October 2007 15:51 UTC
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 10:55:52AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Nicolas> I believe the text of the I-D is clear on the above. > > Nicolas> Thus your protocol issues are taken care of. > > > > Well, my reading of the ID is that the protocol needs two slots--one > > for a prefix and one for a channel binding octec string. Simon is > > arguing that we only want to have one slot. > > I'm fine with that if we want to make that change. > > I don't agree. The I-D is clear on channel bindings being a single > octet string. The prefix is a US-ASCII string prefixed to the raw > channel binding octet string. After the prefix is added you still have > a single octet string. Ah, but the spec doesn't actually _say_ that. It doesn't actually say anywhere that the prefix is prepended to the channel-specific binding data, resulting in a single octet string for the application to transport. On the other hand, it _does_ say that the application needs to distinguish channel types based on the prefix, which suggests (but only suggests) that they are treated as separate items. If it's a single string, then you need a separator, for two reasons: - Without it, it's not good enough for prefixes to be unique; it must be the case that no prefix is an initial substring of another. - Without a separator, it is difficult for the application (or library) to separate the prefix from the data, which it must do in order to determine the channel type, which affects interpretation of the data. Of course, one could use another approach, like a counted string, or a fixed-width field, or a fixed-size integer. I don't care much. > Simon's issue, I thought, was about API slots. I suppose we should let Simon speak for himself, but I believe his issue was about supporting channel bindings in SASL-GS2. _______________________________________________ CHANNEL-BINDING mailing list CHANNEL-BINDING@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/channel-binding
- [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD revi… Sam Hartman
- [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD revi… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD revi… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD revi… Simon Josefsson
- [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD revi… Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Simon Josefsson
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Simon Josefsson
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Simon Josefsson
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Nicolas Williams
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Simon Josefsson
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Sam Hartman
- Re: [CHANNEL-BINDING] Re: draft-ietf-sasl-gs2 AD … Jeffrey Hutzelman