Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guidelines-03.txt
Brian Carpenter CERN-CN <brian@dxcoms.cern.ch> Wed, 07 August 1996 08:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guidelines-03.txt
To: Daniel Karrenberg <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 09:47:29 +0200
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From: Brian Carpenter CERN-CN <brian@dxcoms.cern.ch>
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> > Creating a market which encompasses _both_ addressing and routing > > must be the true goal of PIARA. > > Yes! Yes! Yes! I imagine it could be two seperately developing but > *compatible* markets though. Now am I nitpicking? Maybe. > > > Unfortunately NO > > ONE (and I most emphatically include myself) has a good clue of how to do > > this. > > Unfortunately very true. Conceptually there are *two* hard problems: > finding market models that work *and* developing the current mechanisms > into them. All this needs to be done in real time on a moving target, To quote myself (draft-carpenter-metrics-00.txt) 3.4. Number of announced routes (number) Applicable: at inter-ISP peering points; at connection of subscribers with more than one subnet. Measured by: analysis of routing tables. The question is, how can ISPs be persuaded to put something like this into their pricing structure? What would happen if one major ISP did this before the others? It's very hard to see how this can be run as an experiment; like route filters, or flap damping, it can only be for real. Brian
- RE: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Barry Raveendran Greene
- RE: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Paul Ferguson
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… David R. Conrad
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Robert Elz
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Mathias Koerber
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Robert Elz
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Bob Stewart
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Mathias Koerber
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… bmanning
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… John Day
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Paul Ferguson
- RE: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Jim Browning
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Sean Doran
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… David R. Conrad
- RE: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Jim Browning
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Geoff Huston
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- quiet here lately Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Geoff Huston
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… bmanning
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… bmanning
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- Re: quiet here lately Tony Li
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Randy Bush
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Kent W. England
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Tony Li
- IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guidelines-… Daniel Karrenberg
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Paul Ferguson
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Tony Li
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Marc E. Hidalgo
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Marc E. Hidalgo
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Sean Doran
- Re: IESG review of draft-hubbard-registry-guideli… Marc E. Hidalgo