Re: what are the available choices ?
David R Conrad <davidc@iij.ad.jp> Fri, 11 August 1995 06:48 UTC
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To: Yakov Rekhter <yakov@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: what are the available choices ?
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From: David R Conrad <davidc@iij.ad.jp>
Yakov, >1. efficient address allocation, non-routable Internet >2. non-efficient address allocation, routable Internet ... >However, with the second alternative the Internet would >still be able to grow, as IP addresses would be available from some >sources (need not be registries) (for more on this see RFC1744 by Geoff >Huston). And you would likely have a much more rational allocation methodology which would eventually lead to more efficient address space usage ("you mean I have to pay the Internet Address Brokers $65,536.00 for a /16 and my ISP $10,000/year to route it? Umm. Give me one of your /32s"). In such a case, however, I feel there would likely be an explosion of interest in technologies such as NAT and thus a violation of the "Internet Architecture" criteria of "End-to-End connectivity" as described in Stockholm (if I understood that bullet). Of course, people would still be using the network in much the same way as they do now so one might argue "who cares?". I figure that in an environment where there is a significant charge for address space and out-of-block routing entries, you would evolve a public Internet that acts as a connector for a very large number of private internets which attach through (provider addressed because it's easy) NAT boxes of one form or another. In such a world, the concerns of renumbering essentially vanish and arguments regarding portability of addresses become meaningless (your entire internet becomes portable). >P.S. There is also a third alternative -- non-efficient address >allocation, non-routable Internet. Which is, of course, the way current policies tend... Cheers, -drc
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