Re: [clue] 2 draft covering real-time text relevant for conferencing/ multiple participants and telepresence

[Arnoud van Wijk <[e-mail]>]

Hi Mary,
I see an overlap between part what the drafts makes possible and with CLUE.
As you can see in another mail with Mike, the addition of Real-Time Text 
(RTT) as part of CLUE basis documents and scenarios will be important to 
ensure maximal inclusion and presence.

With what we will learn here and with the scenarios/use cases. We can 
also take such insights and considerations in the 2 drafts.

I encourage you all to give feedback on those 2 drafts in the DISPATCH 
list. I will appreciate that. It does not need to be as CLUE, but I have 
seen many AVT and XCON people here who may be the best WGs to adopt the 
drafts.
Or from any other WG who feels the drafts are useful.

And yes lets discuss them on the DISPATCH list.
Thanks!

Arnoud

On 01-06-11 18:12, Mary Barnes wrote:
> Given that this work has been submitted to DISPATCH for discussion, 
>  the thread of discussion needs to occur on the DISPATCH WG mailing 
> list - in particular the requirements for this solution.
>
> That all said, if there is anything in the current set of CLUE 
> requirements that would prevent this functionality in the future, 
> feedback of that nature would be useful.
>
> Regards,
> Mary.
> CLUE WG co-chair
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Arnoud van Wijk 
> <[e-mail] 
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>     I am getting a clue about CLUE. :-)
>     This is an excellent WG covering what we need for a good
>     telePRESENCE without hurdles.
>     If I communicate remote with other persons, I'd like to "forget"
>     that I participate remote. There should be no limitations in the
>     ability to communicate.
>
>     The focus is at this moment on audio and video, lets make
>     real-time text also a standard media to be used in all the work
>     and scenarios as well with CLUE.
>     The use of Total Conversation, where audio, video and real-time
>     text are presented and available simultaneously will actually
>     optimize the communication with others.
>     As a deaf person, I need lipreading and real-time text together,
>     others sign language, others having real-time text as support if
>     the language used in the conference is not your native language
>     and have the text in your own language.
>     Or even to talk and discuss with others during the conference with
>     real-time text while listening to the main conference.
>
>     More about real-time text can be found at:
>     http://www.realtimetext.org but most of you are already familiar
>     with it.
>
>     It is not only for persons with a hearing disability, it is for
>     all breathing humans who want to communicate (and for a few robots
>     out here :-) )
>     But using Total Conversation will remove the biggest Internet
>     (telephony/conferencing) communication hurdle for persons who are
>     deaf, hard of hearing or have a speech impairment. And that is not
>     a joke.
>
>     We have submitted now 2 drafts that are what I feel quite valuable
>     for CLUE.
>
>     Text media handling in RTP based real-time conferences
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hellstrom-text-conference/
>
>     and
>     Presentation of Text Conversation in real-time and en-bloc form
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hellstrom-textpreview/
>
>     How would you feel about continuing these drafts under the CLUE
>     banner?
>     I am looking forward to your feedback and comments and
>     well...anything that you throw at me and my fellow authors :-)
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Sincerely
>
>     Arnoud van Wijk
>
>     PS we can also help with more insight on Total Conversation
>     regarding quality of the video, camera position and the angle of
>     the view (for example head for lipreading, upper body and
>     sufficient area around the person for sign language etc.).
>
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