Re: draft-cameron-tmux-02.txt

["Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Beast)" <[e-mail]>]

It's OK to aim tmux at terminal use and fine to say that that is what
you are doing.  It's just that I think if you have information about
what other areas it turns out to be useful in, that information should
be included in the eventual RFC so everyone who is thinking of
applying tmux in another area does not have to re-discover it.

Donald

From:  Pete Cameron <[e-mail]>
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>> From: "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Beast)" <[e-mail]>
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>> >> Even if this caused degradation for a single ftp session, would it have
>> >> increased throughput if there had been 10 ftp sesssions?
>> >
>> >It actually improved performance for 2 or more sessions to
>> >and from a pair of hosts.
>> 
>> Is this mentioned in the draft anywhere?
>
>No it isn't.
>
>> If someone was running a heavily loaded ftp server with
>> some clustering of clients, they might want to tmux to
>> increase total service.
>
>Yes that is true.  I think the following extract from an
>email from Dave Crocker (from a message that was only sent
>out to the authors of the draft) sums this up well (I hope
>you don't mind Dave):
>
>        just to underscore the 'simplicity' perspective that
>        Pete cited: During the last IETF meeting, a number
>        of interesting enhancements were discussed.  It was
>        observed by one of the participants (can't remember
>        who) that this facility is intended for a certain
>        category of situation and really isn't intended to
>        be highly general.  That doesn't mean that it should
>        be designed in a crippled fashion, but rather that
>        we should keep the goal in mind, when deciding how
>        to deal with alternatives that are sticky.  (This
>        reduces, of course, to a general philosophy of: if
>        it doesn't cost anything, then add it; otherwise
>        don't.)
>
>Using TMux for FTP trafic comes under the "interesting
>enhancements" category, so we made the decision to exclude
>it. Making FTP work using TMux would cost something. If
>someone wants to use TMux in this environment, it should
>help, but that is not our goal.
>
>Pete