Re: [codec] #15: Efficiently combine pre-encoded audio

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#15: Efficiently combine pre-encoded audio
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 Reporter:  hoene@…                 |       Owner:     
     Type:  enhancement             |      Status:  new
 Priority:  minor                   |   Milestone:     
Component:  requirements            |     Version:     
 Severity:  Active WG Document      |    Keywords:     
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Comment(by hoene@…):

 [Colin:]
 > [...] conferences implemented using multicast require
 > end system mixing of potentially large numbers of active audio
 > streams, whereas those implemented using conference bridges do the
 > mixing in a single central location, and generally suppress all but
 > one speaker. The differences in mixing and the number of simultaneous
 > active streams that might be received potentially affect the design of
 > the codec.

 [Raymond]: I would like to take this opportunity to express my view that
 although codec complexity isn’t much of an issue for PC-to-PC calls where
 there are GHz of processing power available, the codec complexity is an
 important issue in certain application scenarios.  The following are just
 some examples.
 1) If a conference bridge has to decode a large number of voice channels,
 mix, and re-encode, and if compressed-domain mixing cannot be done (which
 is usually the case), then it is important to keep the decoder complexity
 low.

 [JM]: The decoder complexity is very important. Not only because of mixing
 issue, but also because the decoder is generally not allowed to take
 shortcuts to save on complexity (unlike the encoder). As for compressed-
 domain mixing, as you say it is not always available, but *if* we can do
 it (even if only partially), then that can result in a "free" reduction in
 decoder complexity for mixing.

 [Christian]: Scalable [conferencing]
 -       Receiver side activity detection for music and voice having low
 complexity (for the conference bridge)
 -       Efficient mixing of two to four(?) active flows (is this
 achievable without the complete process of decoding and encoding again?)

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