Re: [Congress] CONGRESS is about ready to go

Matt Mathis <mattmathis@measurementlab.net> Tue, 21 February 2023 22:15 UTC

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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 14:15:02 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Congress] CONGRESS is about ready to go
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Looks great!   I would like to suggest some more some "in charter" items:

   -  Interactions between congestion control and lower layer algorithms
   that alter packet timing or thin cumulative ACKs.   Such algorithms are
   pervasive in half duplex link layers, such as WiFi, where channel
   arbitration overhead often dominates performance in terms of both latency
   and bandwidth.
   -  Upper layer or application algorithms that implicitly or explicitly
   defeat transport layer algorithms intended to protect the network.  An
   example would be an application that aborts and restarts transport
   connections on a fixed interval timer, implicitly defeating the transport
   layer's exponential RTO backoff.

Thanks,
--MM--
Evil is defined by mortals who think they know "The Truth" and use force to
apply it to others.


On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 10:19 AM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> From my point of view, the charter looks good and is ready to be submitted
> to the IESG.
> Thanks for the good work, looking forward to working together!
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On Feb 21, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello transport enthusiasts,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that all the pieces are in place to move forward
> with congress, the working group focused on congestion control and related
> topics.
>
> (1) If you haven't already done so, and are interested, please subscribe
> to the congress mailing list:
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/congress. This is the last time
> I'll crosspost (Bcc:) to multiple WG lists, and I encourage others to stop
> as well.
>
> (2)  Although the proposed charter has no formal standing at this time,
> I'm initiating a "last call". Please have a look and file issues by the end
> of this week:
> https://github.com/martinduke/congestion-control-charter
> The only recent additions to the scope are Fair Queueing and rate pacing.
> I'd like to hand this to Zahed, our sponsoring AD, to run through the IESG
> process next week.
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