Re: [core] What is the best introduction to CoRE aims and rationale?

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 04 May 2020 06:59 UTC

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Hi John,

while there is no single document that addresses your needs here, may I point you to a T2TRG draft [1]:

  "RESTful Design for Internet of Things Systems", Ari Keranen, Matthias
  Kovatsch, Klaus Hartke, 2019-11-04, <draft-irtf-t2trg-rest-iot-05.txt>

      This document gives guidance for designing Internet of Things (IoT)
      systems that follow the principles of the Representational State
      Transfer (REST) architectural style.  This document is a product of
      the IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group (T2TRG).

This is less about just listing the benefits of REST-oriented design for IoT and more about telling how to actually do that, but it should contain enough material for a good start.

If you have any feedback on how to clarify the argumentation there or otherwise improve the document, I’m sure the authors [2] and/or the T2TRG mailing list [3] would appreciate that.

Grüße, Carsten

[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-t2trg-rest-iot
[2]: mailto:draft-irtf-t2trg-rest-iot@ietf.org
[3]: mailto:t2trg@irtf.org


> On 2020-05-04, at 06:14, John Carter <john.carter=40taitradio.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> I'm having a hard time convincing and explaining to some colleagues what the value of it is.
> 
> In particular one colleague is very disbelieving that one can, in practice, gain effective decoupling of software systems by it.
> 
> Thank you!
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