[core] Re: Review of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-11
Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de> Thu, 13 February 2025 11:35 UTC
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Hello Carsten, again, thanks for the review! Since I sometimes used different wordings than we discussed in yesterday's interim to fix the issues you pointed out, I opened https://github.com/core-wg/draft-dns-over-coap/pull/39. Best Martine On 12.02.25 15:18, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Below is a quick review of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-11 ahead of the meeting in 40 minutes. > A number of nits that probably don’t need more attention beyond merging them are in PR #[38], the rest is quickly summarized below. > > Grüße, Carsten > > ## Minor > > The DNS update discussion uncovered that we are not really addressing > anything but DNS queries (OPCODE = 0). This could be made clear in a > general scope statement about opcodes: this doc is only about opcode 0. > Section 4.3.3 would then not be necessary. > > We probably need an example for a "Not Implemented" response triggered > by an unsupported opcode. > > 4.3.1: what is a "valid DNS response" (not defined by RFC 1035)? > > 4.3.1 "Communication errors with a DNS server (e.g., timeouts) SHOULD be indicated > by including a SERVFAIL DNS response in a successful CoAP response." > -- what is an exception to this? Should this not be a MUST? > > 5.3 "it is NOT RECOMMENDED". Not sure what "it" is. Directly mapping > CoAP to HTTP without the use of a DNS server? > > s/Unencrypted/Unprotected/ (it seems the text using "unencrypted" is > mostly about not having integrity protection) > (and s/unencrypted/unprotected/ as well) > > ## Nits > > Nit fixes have been collected in PR #[38] > > [38]: https://github.com/core-wg/draft-dns-over-coap/pull/38 > > Some I did not want to just fill in: > > ### Typos > > (Nits listed:) > > ... Clarify that DoC and DoC are... > > ### Editorial > > (Nits listed:) > > * prevent TCP and HTTPS resource requirements > * prevent resource requirements of DTLS or TLS > > (We don't prevent these requirements, we cause them not to apply) > > CoAP resource identifier > > (Not a defined term) > > For reliability and energy saving measures content decoupling and thus > en-route caching on proxies takes[...] > > (can't really parse) > > refresh stale cache entries without large messages > > (neither -- when do stale cache entries have large messages?) > > algorithm to assure the requirement for the DoC > > (one more) > >
- [core] Review of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap-11 Carsten Bormann
- [core] Re: Review of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coa… Martine Sophie Lenders
- [core] Re: Review of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coa… Martine Sophie Lenders