Re: [core] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap

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To: Martine Sophie Lenders <m.lenders@fu-berlin.de>, "core@ietf.org" <core@ietf.org>
CC: "draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap@ietf.org>, dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, DNS Privacy Working Group <dns-privacy@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [core] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap
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Subject: Re: [core] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap
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Hi Martine, all,

FWIW: 

With regards to [1], and given that DNR was explicitly mentioned, please note that the DNR version in the RFC Editor queue says:  

      The "alpn" SvcParam may not be required in contexts
      such as a variant of DNS over CoAP where messages are encrypted
      using Object Security for Constrained RESTful Environments
      (OSCORE) [RFC8613].

Also, Ben made a similar change to accommodate non-alpn cases: https://github.com/ietf-wg-add/draft-ietf-add-svcb-dns/commit/65927be7ba79fbc6c93a2c793f8b8b455b394ea5. I don't think this change made it to public version though. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : core <core-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Martine Sophie
> Lenders
> Envoyé : vendredi 23 juin 2023 21:38
> À : core@ietf.org
> Cc : draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap@ietf.org; dnsop
> <dnsop@ietf.org>; DNS Privacy Working Group <dns-privacy@ietf.org>
> Objet : [core] Next steps: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap
> 
> Hi!
> 
> we, the authors of draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap, are planning to
> present on DNS over CoAP at the next core interim (and at IETF
> 117) again.
> 
> In preparation for that, there are still some things to do and
> discuss
> ahead:
> 
> Discussions on 'ALPN "coap" for DTLS' [1] and 'Using SVCB with
> OSCORE/EDHOC' [2] somewhat got stalled. For our document, I think
> we need at least confirmation or decline that the "coap" ALPN
> could be used for DTLS, SVCB for OSCORE/EDHOC, I think is out of
> scope at the moment anyways.
> 
> Furthermore, there is still an open question, if DoC can or should
> be translated at a CoAP-HTTP proxy to DoH. Namely, how the FETCH
> that DoC uses should be translated into the POST/GET of DoH [3].
> 
> And last but not least, is there further feedback we did not
> address yet or is there new feedback that you want us to address?
> 
> Best
> Martine
> 
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