[core] Relative times in responses, Age and Max-Age
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Subject: [core] Relative times in responses, Age and Max-Age
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Hi, discussing an upcoming draft Martine is composing on DNS-over-CoAP, questions on relative times in CoAP responses came up. Root of the issue is that on the application level, different parts of a response can have different life times. At the same time, we want to use CoAP proxy caches (ie. as long as *all* parts of the response are still valid). Consequently, the client does not have the time of its request as a reliable reference point for the times indicated in the response. (Keeping in mind that we don't want to rely on some consensus time frame -- there's no indication devices will know UNIX time). We're currently floating two (largely equivalent) ideas: * Transport all times relative to the first request. Set the Max-Age option to the smallest of the times involved. If the client sees a Max-Age less than the smallest payload time, it will subtract the difference from all times. * Transport all times relative to the end of Max-Age. The client can add Max-Age to all times. HTTP is using an Age header to be subtracted from all values, but a) I'd rather not introduce a new option that all proxies would need to support, and b) using Max-Age gives a compatible unilateral estimation of the true value (a proxy reducing Max-Age doesn't hurt), whereas the lack of an Age value could just as well mean that it was produced by a proxy that doesn't know Age. Is there any experience implementing things like this in CoRE? Best I found was SenML's 'roughly "now"', which doesn't talk about representation lifetimes. Thanks Christian -- Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is why it is called the present. -- ancient saying
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