Re: [core] Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-core-sid-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 14 July 2021 15:15 UTC

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Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
    > -- Section 7.5.2 --
    > AFAIK, many YANG modules are not originating at the IETF (Open Config, vendor
    > specifics modules, ...). How can those non-IETF modules get a SID as the two
    > ways to get a SID are based on RFC (if I understand correctly this section).

{Speaking as an interesting party who has a SID dependancy in
draft-ietf-anima-constrained-voucher, and who are doing interop next week
during the hackathon...}

The original intention was that there would be multiple providers of SIDs via
mega-range allocations (7.4), and that most major entities would allocate
that way.  I see no reason why larger vendors couldn't allocate that as well.
Section 7.4 is Expert Review.

The authors originally operated a web interface, and were hoping to hand that
to IANA and/or secretariat.


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