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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de>
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Understood. I'll ask about the timeline and we can decide how long a delay we're willing to tolerate. It doesn't need to block this document for now, but if it reaches the RFC Editor in the current state, it would delay publication until the other document catches up.

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From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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To: Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de>
Cc: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>; draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap@ietf.org <draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap@ietf.org>; core@ietf.org <core@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [core] AD Review: draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap

On 2025-06-16, at 17:07, Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de> wrote:
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> Since we only reference draft-ietf-cbor-edn-literals to use CBOR string sequences, it should be fine to reference RFC 8949.

(RFC 8949 does not define an EDN format for CBOR sequences, so this would also need to reference RFC 8610 Appendix G.3 while at the same time deprecating Appendix G.4.  This is what edn-literals does...)

Since this is not just about examples but about using EDN in DNS-related text files, I would prefer it if the CBOR WG would get its act together and finish the excursion through the WG, so we can have the format we actually want.

Grüße, Carsten

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