Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI
Alexander Pelov <alexander@ackl.io> Mon, 27 July 2015 10:27 UTC
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Hi Andy! Thanks for the draft! Seems a good start to get the things moving in the direction of having a good, structured introspection mechanism for module discovery! I'm not completely sure that it will be a static document. You still need to think of the possibility of a firmware upgrade, in which case you have to consider the clients which have obtained your previous package descriptions. Why don't you want it to be a YANG module? I would suppose that for a structured numbering scheme (such as CoOL) we could have a nice fixed entry point for such introspection resource, e.g. moduleID = 1. Alternatively, I would think that it should be discoverable through .well-known/core A point to make is that we can have alias mappings through this introspection mechanism. Defining such an introspection mechanism for the aliases was actually one of the work I was considering for CoOL. Best, Alexander Le 27/07/2015 08:29, Andy Bierman a écrit : > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:26 PM, peter van der Stok > <stokcons@xs4all.nl <mailto:stokcons@xs4all.nl>> wrote: > > HI Andy, > > Is the proposal to make YANG packages compulsory over yang-library > in Comi servers and clients? > > > No, it would be optional. > Another solution approach would be to make the module-set-id values > global instead of per-server. That might be less work perhaps. > > > Peter > > > Andy > > > Andy Bierman schreef op 2015-07-26 19:44: > > Hi, > > Michel raised some issues with the YANG library draft > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-yang-library/ > > Maybe CoMI needs its own optimized module library. > I am concerned that data sizes of the YANG library will be > too big in some really constrained environments. > > I wrote a draft that defines a way to specify the contents of the > YANG library in a single static document, called a YANG package. > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bierman-netmod-yang-package/ > > If there was a "shorthand" resource that listed YANG packages, > instead > of YANG modules, then the CoMI client that supported YANG packages > could read that instead of the module library. > > The YANG package message response can identify a single package > (e.g. match the firmware) so the size of the response will > remain very > small, and not depend on the entire list of modules, features, > and deviations. The data savings could 1000X for 100 modules. > > The client needs to retrieve the library first-time and anytime it > changes. > The module-set-id values are per-server, not global. This > could be a > significant bottleneck when a CoMI client starts or restarts, and > manages lots of servers. > > Andy > > > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org <mailto:core@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core > > > > > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core
- [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Andy Bierman
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI peter van der Stok
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Andy Bierman
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Alexander Pelov
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Andy Bierman
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Alexander Pelov
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Andy Bierman
- Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI Alexander Pelov