Re: [core] YANG Packages for CoMI

Alexander Pelov <alexander@ackl.io> Mon, 27 July 2015 10:27 UTC

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Hi Andy!

Thanks for the draft! Seems a good start to get the things moving in the 
direction of having a good, structured introspection mechanism for 
module discovery!

I'm not completely sure that it will be a static document. You still 
need to think of the possibility of a firmware upgrade, in which case 
you have to consider the clients which have obtained your previous 
package descriptions.

Why don't you want it to be a YANG module? I would suppose that for a 
structured numbering scheme (such as CoOL) we could have a nice fixed 
entry point for such introspection resource, e.g. moduleID = 1. 
Alternatively, I would think that it should be discoverable through 
.well-known/core

A point to make is that we can have alias mappings through this 
introspection mechanism. Defining such an introspection mechanism for 
the aliases was actually one of the work I was considering for CoOL.

Best,
Alexander

Le 27/07/2015 08:29, Andy Bierman a écrit :
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:26 PM, peter van der Stok 
> <stokcons@xs4all.nl <mailto:stokcons@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>
>     HI Andy,
>
>     Is the proposal to make YANG packages compulsory over yang-library
>     in Comi servers and clients?
>
>
> No, it would be optional.
> Another solution approach would be to make the module-set-id values
> global instead of per-server. That might be less work perhaps.
>
>
>     Peter
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>     Andy Bierman schreef op 2015-07-26 19:44:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         Michel raised some issues with the YANG library draft
>         http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netconf-yang-library/
>
>         Maybe CoMI needs its own optimized module library.
>         I am concerned that data sizes of the YANG library will be
>         too big in some really constrained environments.
>
>         I wrote a draft that defines a way to specify the contents of the
>         YANG library in a single static document, called a YANG package.
>         http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bierman-netmod-yang-package/
>
>         If there was a "shorthand" resource that listed YANG packages,
>         instead
>         of YANG modules, then the CoMI client that supported YANG packages
>         could read that instead of the module library.
>
>         The YANG package message response can identify a single package
>         (e.g. match the firmware) so the size of the response will
>         remain very
>         small, and not depend on the entire list of modules, features,
>         and deviations. The data savings could 1000X for 100 modules.
>
>         The client needs to retrieve the library first-time and anytime it
>         changes.
>         The module-set-id values are per-server, not global. This
>         could be a
>         significant bottleneck when a CoMI client starts or restarts, and
>         manages lots of servers.
>
>         Andy
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