Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-echo-request-tag-12.txt

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Mon, 01 February 2021 22:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-echo-request-tag-12.txt
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Thanks, Christian.  I’ve put it into IESG Evaluation.  It’s too late to
have it on this week’s IESG agenda, to it will come up for approval in two
weeks.

Barry

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:56 PM Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com>
wrote:

> Hello Barry, hello Jürgen,
>
> I've just uploaded a -12, and Marco has been very quick to update the
> write-up.
>
> All the points of the reviews have been addressed, and being nits
> probably don't warrant further mention outside the changelog of the -12
> (copied below for convenience).
>
> The nontivial point was the lack of explanation about the number given
> for OK-to-send responses. It has been recalculated with more
> conservative numbers, experssed in what is hoped to be easier to consume
> for implementation developers. For the "factor 3" that plays into it it
> now refers to the WIP QUIC draft. It's giving the numbers as guidance in
> case there's no better basis for making a more situation-adjusted and
> more informed decision.
>
> With that, the document should be good to go ahead.
>
> Best regards, and thanks for all your input
> Christian
>
> ---
>
>    *  Changes since draft-ietf-core-echo-request-tag-11 (addressing
>       GenART, TSVART, OpsDir comments)
>
>       -  Explain the size permissible for responses before amplification
>          mitigation by referring to the QUIC draft for an OK factor, and
>          giving the remaining numbers that led to it.  The actual number
>          is reduced from 152 to 136 because the more conservative case
>          of the attacker not sending a token is considered now.
>
>       -  Added a definition for "freshness"
>
>       -  Give more concrete example values in figures 2 and 3 (based on
>          the appendix suggestions), highlighting the differences between
>          the figures by telling how they are processed in the examples.
>
>       -  Figure with option summary: E/U columns removed (for duplicate
>          headers and generally not contributing)
>
>       -  MAY capitalization changed for consistency.
>
>       -  Editorial changes (IV acronym expanded, s/can not/cannot/g)
>
>       -  Draft ietf-core-stateless has become RFC8974
>
> --
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