Re: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally unique names
Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Wed, 06 March 2019 16:01 UTC
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From: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
To: 'Ari Keränen' <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, 'core WG' <core@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally unique names
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As long as it is defined as optional, I don't see a problem. I would worry about possible issues if it was forbidden. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: core <core-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Ari Keränen > Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 7:03 AM > To: core WG <core@ietf.org> > Subject: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally unique names > > CoRE WG, > > One issue on SenML FETCH/PATCH that came up during the joint IETF / OMA > meeting was that it would be useful to be able to use PATCH payload names > without the "globally unique prefix". > > SenML RFC has a requirement that all SenML names are globally unique [1]. > This enables the SenML Packs to be easily moved between systems without > knowing the context they were originally retrieved at. > > However, when SenML (i)PATCH is applied, the context is always known by > the receiver since the receiver is hosting the resources that are being > patched. > > For example with LwM2M composite write using iPATCH, the content of the > Patch Pack in JSON format could be as follows: > > [{"bn":"/3303/0/", "n":"5700","v":22.4}, {"n":"5601","v":12.2}, > {"n":"5602","v":34.2}, {"bn":"/3303/1/", "n":"5700","v":18.2}, > {"n":"5601","v":9.2}, {"n":"5602","v":27.2}] > > (Here you have a LwM2M client with two instances of a IPSO temperature > sensor, Object ID 3303, supporting following resources 5700: Sensor Value, > 5601: Min Measure Value, 5602: Max Measured Value). > > If we keep the same requirement as SenML Pack names, both "bn" field > values would have to be prefixed with the LwM2M endpoint ID, e.g., > "urn:dev:mac:0024befffe804ff1". This would consume a fair amount of bytes > on wire. > > Our suggestion is that we relax the requirement for the names in Patch Packs > so that the names are, for example, "evaluated in the context of the target > resource". That is, all base names could be automatically prefixed by the > unique endpoint name and target resource path. > > Comments welcome! This will be discussed in the CoRE interim in one hour. > > > Cheers, > Ari > > [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8428#section-4.2 > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core
- [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally unique … Ari Keränen
- Re: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally uni… Jim Schaad
- Re: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally uni… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] SenML FETCH/PATCH without globally uni… Christian Amsüss