Re: [core] draft-rahman-core-sleepy-05
"Rahman, Akbar" <Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com> Mon, 31 March 2014 12:27 UTC
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Hi Weigengyu, Thank you for the good questions. Following is my feedback: >So, in the situation when the CoAP server is in receive-only mode, the proxy should forward the request to the server. >The CoAP server could receive the request and give a response after a while. >The proxy need to return "Waiting for a while" instead of "The Retry -After". Is "Waiting for a while" a new CoAP Response code that needs to be defined? >In our researching work, the CoAP server has three working modes: active, receive-only, and sleep. >active mode: the server can send and receiv; >receive-only mode: the server can receive, not send; >sleep mode: the server can neither send nor receive. This is interesting. But, what is the main benefit of the receive-only mode? That is, since the CoAP model is request/response, what is the value of being able to send the request (e.g. GET) without knowing the response? Best Regards, Akbar From: weigengyu [mailto:weigengyu@bupt.edu.cn] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 5:57 AM To: Rahman, Akbar Cc: core@ietf.org Subject: Re: [core] draft-rahman-core-sleepy-05 Hi Akbai, I would like to make my question clear. In your work, "Enhanced Sleepy Node Support for CoAP IETF 87, July 2013, Sleepy Node Performance Analysis" in the PPT page of "Reverse Proxy Features for Sleepy Node Support" there are following descriptions: "Sleep-aware CoAP 5.03 Response Capability If CoAP request to a sleeping server is received (and there is no valid cache for that request), proxy returns a '5.03 Retry-After' response to client 5.03 contains a timestamp indicating when the sever will wake back up (timestamp delivered in CoAP maxAge option) " In our researching work, the CoAP server has three working modes: active, receive-only, and sleep. active mode: the server can send and receiv; receive-only mode: the server can receive, not send; sleep mode: the server can neither send nor receive. So, in the situation when the CoAP server is in receive-only mode, the proxy should forward the request to the server. The CoAP server could receive the request and give a response after a while. The proxy need to return "Waiting for a while" instead of "The Retry -After". This may be due to how we define the sleepy node. And, the requirement is to consider three working modes of CoAP server when handling sleepy nodes. if the CoAP Client get this knowledge it may be good to get better the communication efficiency in CoRE networks. Regards, Gengyu Network Techonolgy Center School of Computer Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications From: weigengyu <mailto:weigengyu@bupt.edu.cn> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:03 AM To: Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com Cc: core@ietf.org Subject: Re: [core] draft-rahman-core-sleepy-05 Hi Akbar, About draft-rahman-core-sleepy-05 Enhanced Sleepy Node Support for CoAP, I have a question. Defining Sleep Para to tackle sleep nodes in CoRE networks is an essential work and important. By the Figure 3: Prototype Configuration, you propose to add RD Sleep Para into proxy (CoAP Reverse Proxy). Is it possible to transfer Sleep Para into CoAP Client? It is the CoAP Client to intial each CoAP request, and the CoAP Client may get the infomations about the resources from the ACK of the first access, if possible. With this knowledge, the CoAP client could choose the adquate chance to send request, and estimate the duration to wait for response. Regards, Gengyu Network Technology Center School of Computer Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ core mailing list core@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core
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