[COSE] JOSE-HPKE ... was Re: [jose] FW: New Version Notification for draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt
Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Thu, 12 October 2023 15:30 UTC
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Subject: [COSE] JOSE-HPKE ... was Re: [jose] FW: New Version Notification for draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt
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Hi all, Let me add a bit of history to the announcement of this new draft. As you may know, we have been working for quite a while on the COSE-HPKE specification, see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-hpke/. After a lot of discussions we managed to make fundamental design decisions recently. During those discussions we also talked about the mapping of HPKE to JOSE and we learned (off-list) about implementation work. At the same time Tiru and Aritra looked into ways to combine PQC algorithms and convential cryptography in JOSE, which lead to the publication of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ra-cose-hybrid-encrypt/. This is referred as "hybrid key exchange". <draft-ra-cose-hybrid-encrypt> uses a classical ephemeral-static Diffie-Hellman (ES-DH) and combines it with Kyber. With the registration of X25519Kyber768Draft00 in the IANA HPKE registry, see https://www.iana.org/assignments/hpke/hpke.xhtml, we also have a way to accomplish the same functionality with HPKE. Hence, we got together and worked on <draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt>. I believe it is good to have a JOSE-based version of HPKE that aligns with the work done in COSE. (It is a -00 version and details will change.) I could imagine that many of you will agree with me. Here is the question that is more difficult to answer: Do we need two solutions offering the "hybrid key exchange" functionality - an HPKE-based and a regular ES-DH-based solution? I am looking forward to the discussion at the upcoming IETF meeting. Ciao Hannes Am 12.10.2023 um 15:55 schrieb Aritra Banerjee (Nokia): > > Hello all, > > We published a new draft draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00 - Use of > Hybrid Public-Key Encryption (HPKE) with Javascript Object Signing and > Encryption (JOSE) (ietf.org) > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt/>to the > JOSE WG. > > This document defines the use of the HPKE with JOSE. > > Feedback and suggestions are welcome. > > Regards, > > Aritra. > > *From: *internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > *Date: *Thursday, 12. October 2023 at 14:48 > *To: *Michael B. Jones <michael_b_jones@hotmail.com>, Tirumaleswar > Reddy.K <kondtir@gmail.com>, Aritra Banerjee (Nokia) > <aritra.banerjee@nokia.com>, Hannes Tschofenig > <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>, Hannes Tschofenig > <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>, Michael Jones > <michael_b_jones@hotmail.com>, Orie Steele > <orie@transmute.industries>, Tirumaleswar Reddy <kondtir@gmail.com> > *Subject: *New Version Notification for draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt > > > CAUTION: This is an external email. Please be very careful when > clicking links or opening attachments. See the URL nok.it/ext for > additional information. > > > > A new version of Internet-Draft draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt has > been > successfully submitted by Tirumaleswar Reddy and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt > Revision: 00 > Title: Use of Hybrid Public-Key Encryption (HPKE) with Javascript > Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE) > Date: 2023-10-12 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 23 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt > <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.txt> > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt/ > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt/> > HTML: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.html > <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt-00.html> > HTMLized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-rha-jose-hpke-encrypt> > > > Abstract: > > This specification defines Hybrid public-key encryption (HPKE) for > use with Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE). HPKE > offers a variant of public-key encryption of arbitrary-sized > plaintexts for a recipient public key. > > HPKE works for any combination of an asymmetric key encapsulation > mechanism (KEM), key derivation function (KDF), and authenticated > encryption with additional data (AEAD) function. Authentication for > HPKE in JOSE is provided by JOSE-native security mechanisms or by one > of the authenticated variants of HPKE. > > This document defines the use of the HPKE with JOSE. > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose
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