Re: [Crypto-panel] Requests for review: draft-krovetz-ocb-wideblock and draft-krovetz-rc6-rc5-vectors

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Thu, 14 March 2019 06:46 UTC

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From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:46:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Requests for review: draft-krovetz-ocb-wideblock and draft-krovetz-rc6-rc5-vectors
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Yaron:

I understand that bit of history.  I still think we deserve the guidance from the leadership.

Russ


> On Mar 14, 2019, at 2:44 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> The base OCB has already been published as an RFC, for better or worse, and quite recently. So I don't see what we stand to gain by a further IPR discussion, especially since such discussions are rarely conclusive. I don't think there's anyone claiming that the IPR situation for wideblock OCB is different than the baseline OCB.
> 
> Thanks,
> 	Yaron
> 
> On 14/03/2019 8:08, Russ Housley wrote:
>> Alexey:
>> There has been considerable discussion of IPR-related topics for OCB mode.  I think that the IRSG or the GFRG Chairs need to give the crypto panel guidance on this topic before a review of that document takes place.
>> Russ
>>> On Mar 13, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Crypto Panel members,
>>> 
>>> Independent Stream Editor asked for reviews of the following 2 documents:
>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krovetz-ocb-wideblock/
>>> .....and...
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krovetz-rc6-rc5-vectors/
>>> 
>>> .....in the Independent Stream.
>>> 
>>> These are both currently in expired state, but available in the archive.
>>> 
>>> If you can do a high level review first, that would be great. ISE is looking for one of the following responses:
>>> 
>>> 1) this is a good idea and should be taken by CFRG
>>> 2) this is a good idea and should be published in the Independent Stream
>>> 3) this is a good idea, but needs some fixes
>>> 4) this is not a good idea and should not be published.
>>> 
>>> (If you don't know the practical difference between 1) and 2), that is Ok.)
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Alexey
>>> 
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