[Crypto-panel] Fwd: A question to be added to the Round 2 questions list for nominated PAKEs

"Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com> Mon, 02 December 2019 08:19 UTC

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From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:18:53 +0300
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Subject: [Crypto-panel] Fwd: A question to be added to the Round 2 questions list for nominated PAKEs
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Forwarding a question for consideration during Round 2 of the PAKE
selection process from Björn Haase.

Regards,
Stanislav



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От: Björn Haase <bjoern.haase1@endress.com>
Date: пн, 2 дек. 2019 г. в 11:15
Subject: WG: A question to be added to the Round 2 questions list for
nominated PAKEs
To: Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <smyshsv@gmail.com>


Dear Stanislav,



Find enclosed a CC of my post to the crypto-panel mailing list. It seems
that my mail did not get through the filters.



Yours,



Björn.




Mit freundlichen Grüßen I Best Regards

Dr. Björn Haase
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*Von:* Björn Haase
*Gesendet:* Montag, 2. Dezember 2019 09:11
*An:* crypto-panel@irtf.org
*Betreff:* A question to be added to the Round 2 questions list for
nominated PAKEs



Dear CFRG chairs and Crypto Review Panel members,



I am concerned that PAKE implementations might become hampered by patents.
Specifically because it seems that exceptionally one important patent
period has been recently extended by additional 3 years yielding a total
duration of 23 years. (A recent patent scan has pointed out that the PAK
patent U.S. Patent 7,047,408 will not expire as expected in march 2020 but
only in march 2023.)





Please add the following question to the list of additional questions to be

asked at Round 2 of the PAKE selection process.



- Can the nominators/developers of the protocols please re-evaluate
possible IPR conflicts between their candidates protocols and own and
foreign patents? Specifically, can you discuss the impact of U.S. Patent
7,047,408 (expected expiration 10th of march 2023) on free use of SPAKE2
and the impact of EP1847062B1 (HMQV, expected expiration October 2026) on
the free use of the RFC-drafts for OPAQUE?