[Curdle] FW: Minutes
"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 17 July 2017 21:55 UTC
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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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Draft minutes from Phil. Please post any corrections before the end of the week. Thank you. -- Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies Member, OpenSSL Dev Team IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz From: hallam@gmail.com [mailto:hallam@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Hallam-Baker Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 12:04 PM To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> Subject: Minutes CURDLE Document Status: CMS / Kerberos to IESG PKIX needs work SSH one in last call. RC4-die-die-die awaiting adoption Draft to consider is the SSH key exchange Diffie Hellman NIST P256 / When 25519 is deployed everywhere, can change. Keep as should not Should- until 25519 is deployed everywhere. EKR: Also puzzled by NIST curves. Fine to say NIST unloved. Deprecating not justified technically Deb Collie NSA: Diffie hellman group choices in the drafts are inconsistent. Martin: Choices are the ones with normative language attached, the others merely exist. EKR: Reason for SHA512 over 256 is risk of Grovers algorithm collisions. Would be good if IETF said our theory on Quantum Crypto is X. Tero: The normative language listed on slides is only for SHOULD- and above, anything else is MAY PHB: Quantum Crypto is for IRTF EKR: We should have an agreement on 256 bits being good enough for indefinite future. Martin Thompson: 256 bits for now, may change in future. Tero: Don’t go from Must to Must Not, better Must to Should Not. Problematic because it breaks backwards compatibility. Rich Saltz: Is consensus P256 OK Deb: ecdh-sha2-nistp256 should not be Should- should be at least a SHOULD EKR: just swap plus and minus on ecdh-sha2-nistp256 ecdh-sha2-nistp384 Deb: Just get rid of plus and minus. Charter discussion Table of work. Are we done? Kerberos missing Ed25519 Deb: Shouldn’t that be done in kitten Anon: Kitten should be run over. Chair said please do in Curdle. Martin Thompson: Jose line, some interest in Web Crypto X25519 and X448. No reason we can’t do it. Interfaces with W3C Web crypto. [Search for a volunteer] Yoav: SSH Chacha Poly already exists in code. PHB: May have JOSE code.
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